copps June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 Wow guys... well this is a must read thread... I'm Brooklyn Johnny at nano-reef and Copps on RC as some of you know... Take a look at what this guy tried to do to me... http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?...pic=89677&st=40 Copps
copps June 15, 2006 Author June 15, 2006 Wow, what a dirt bag. Please refrain from insulting dirt in a bag... a dirt bag is not THAT BAD
Gadgets June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 Please refrain from insulting dirt in a bag... a dirt bag is not THAT BAD LOL!
Charlie97L June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 that's just pathetic. i hope they ban him from Nano-Reef. i know they're trying to shore up their selling area... but too often lately i've been seeing things being sold for exorbitant prices there. esp zoos, rics, acans, and blastos... i've been catching the whiff of scamming... and i'm came from the auto modification industry, so i'm unfortunately practiced in finding them. :-(
gioNVA June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 that's messed up. Good thing you caught him. Wanna sell me that PPE frag that you're about to ship out?
copps June 15, 2006 Author June 15, 2006 I've already been in touch with Skipper at RC to get him banned... he actively PMed me as many people do on RC... GioNVA, this one may be evidence :D... if you're serious I could let you know when I have another pack available... This is crazy... I wonder if the local Ohio guys over there know him?
emissary June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 MAN what a conniving jerk. You don't expect to find those kinds of people in this hobby really... sad :( Of course Tom at Glasscages has a BUSINESS built around scamming people but that's a different story.
dzekunoi June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 I'm speechless... (does not happen often, usually I'm very verbal) BTW, do you have some more safecrackers? :wink:
copps June 15, 2006 Author June 15, 2006 Safecrackers have their scams too... Check this out... http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.p...threadid=851833 I provided Dave with his safes and he happily posted the comparison picture... :wink: dzekunoi, I'll PM you tomorrow as my blood is still boiling a bit over this...
gastone June 15, 2006 June 15, 2006 John, I remember meeting you last fall and spending the afternoon in your house enjoying your beautiful tank while my poor girlfriend became more and more upset with the length of time I was NOT gawking at her. I asked you then about a zoanthid pack at some point... now I see you sell dead zoas. Shame on you. j/k John. I'm sorry you had to put up with this. Thank God you are active on more than one board and were able to catch him. BTW, if you do come across another frag pack, said girlfriend still owes me for last Christmas. Sorry again John, Glad that everything worked out for you though. Garrett.
copps June 16, 2006 Author June 16, 2006 Hey Garrett! I remember well now. I will be sure to let you know. Thanks for the support... it's face to face meetings like ours and in our local club that usually scumbags like this guy can't stomach... we are lucky to have a great local club... What's worse is that my 11 month old son went to the emergency room last night for the first time after falling from his high chair... he's fine and we did it for precautionary reasons... but it was OVER three hours, and I woke up early this morning to pack up this scumbag's replacement frag only so he could sell all of them for a profit... Anyway, the only positive thing in the last 24 hours is Ecuador advancing in the World Cup for the first time in history... While my four grandparents are Italian, I lived and studied in Ecuador and the Galapagos and met my wife there... I saw Ecuador beat Brazil for the first time in history in 2001 when living there... they beat them again along with Argentina this time around, and are on a streak of two shutouts and currently on top of their group... Anyway, here's my little squirt along with me in my Ecuador jersey... Vamos Tricolor!
DEEPBLUE June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 Thats amazing that someone would do that, but there are people out there like that. Eric
dbartco June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 I know we all have seen this repricing and selling at a profit. Even here it has been done, and there seems little you can do except vent. This is a whole new level of low. The flat out lies are just too much. I am surprised he didn't just repost your pics! Glad to know a little clout and experience on these boards my help to right some wrongs. Even though the hobby continues to grow, generally the family comradere still exists. (and jeez, I hope I never %$#* you off! Never want to be on the wrong side of this sort of battle.) In other battles, if you get 2nd and England wins group A, we will cheer for whoever gives the best frags. Could this be the end of the friendship between you and Leishman?
rocko918 June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 Wow, Amazing what people will do for a buck. Glad you caught it before you sent him more. I have had good and bad trades on RC and Nano-reef. It's hard to trust someone you have never met but since it's a reef community you think everyone is just as nice as you. Not true. Sorry he took you for a ride John. Unfortunately there not much else you can do other than rat him out and hope he doesn't come back. I am sure he will go on ebay soon!. I got screwed by a guy named ckfazz on rc. he just decided to quit using rc after he got my red kedds. Have not heard from him since. I am sure he has another user name by now. Not much I can do, I have his name and address but can't find a phone number. Now when I trade I asked for that as well. thanks for sharing!
Caribbean Jake June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 all I can do after reading this thread is shake my head (<-- ;-->), now I know who Rik feels when he got fed up with this hobby. We all make honest mistakes, but this is low.. specially when this guys is porpusly knowing it. on the other hand.. GO ECUADOR !!, sorry Doug but England better shape up or get out....
dzekunoi June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 John, glad to hear your son is OK. I'm a mother of a little troublemaker myself. Over 8 years of his life we were to ER 3 times, including 2 sets of stiches on his face What I realized - going to ER always take much longer than going to night time care facility (like night-time pediatrics) I'm sure you have one in VA as well. As for safecrackers scam - I saw it on RC... I'm amaized how creative people can be trying to scam more money... AND, finally, GO ECUADOR!!!!! Great team. Hope to see them playing in the final.
BeltwayBandit June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 I'm sorry to hear about your troubles John. Perhaps this link might be useful to you in teaching this kid a lesson.... https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud...udComplaint.htm
Folta June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 It's always a shame to see people do things like this... one of the nice things about this hobby is being able to trade/sell frags to each other to diversify what we all have, and to preserve species (i.e. if someone has a certain coral and nobody else does, and something happens to the tank....). I recall a similar incident on here some time back.. Someone bought a believe it was a blue oregon tort from Leishman and then came on here and tried to sell it for twice the price he paid for it? *shrugs*... it takes all sorts...
scott711 June 16, 2006 June 16, 2006 John, That really sucks what a @##&^&!!!. Go Ecuador!!!! I remember when i was there for the world cup and Brazil won.
copps June 16, 2006 Author June 16, 2006 Thanks for all the support guys... it's a new day and I'm calm... the best revenge is that people who lead their lives this way will be rewarded with failed relationships and acquintances who will never trust them... hopefully he realizes this before his relationships outside of the reef world don't alienate him like those inside the reef world have... this kid was a part of every major discussion board out there... It's always a shame to see people do things like this... one of the nice things about this hobby is being able to trade/sell frags to each other to diversify what we all have, and to preserve species (i.e. if someone has a certain coral and nobody else does, and something happens to the tank....). I recall a similar incident on here some time back.. Someone bought a believe it was a blue oregon tort from Leishman and then came on here and tried to sell it for twice the price he paid for it? *shrugs*... it takes all sorts... Yeah, selling frags right away for profit is slimy, but again scamming people out of time, money, and dignity (not to mention PPEs) is another thing... John, That really sucks what a @##&^&!!!. Go Ecuador!!!! I remember when i was there for the world cup and Brazil won. Being at a World Cup qualifier where Ecuador, the second smallest nation in South America, beat the biggest soccer powerhouse in the world was an all time favorite moment of mine... I still recall the drunken chants as me and my wife's relatives yelled "Nos vemos en Japon!"... there's a passion in the stadium that trumps all the Superbowls... the cost of the ticket was $8, while the average monthly salary was around $40 when I was there... people would have paid to get in with their organs! The best thing about this last string of shutout victories es que ya tenemos respeto del mundo... Ecuadorian soccer now is well respected... this round of qualifying Ecuador again beat BRAZIL and ARGENTINA and still no respect was given in the analyses from commentators... not so now baby... Ecuador is not the best team, but they've dominated teams early in this Cup more than England (nearly drawing with Trinidad and Tobago and only beating Paraguay as the result of an own goal), Brazil (again squeaking by 1-0 in a non convincing game), and the US (as much as I root for them, they played like a high school team in the first game)... Oh and Doug, Leishman's friendship is fine... no one is more frightened of England's lack of a production against mediocre teams than Brits themselves... Que viva La Copa...
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