Breeding Marine Fish

[GraffitiSpotCorals]

I am breeding bluestripped pipe fish, bangai cardinals, 2 pairs of watchman gobies and fireclowns.

My hermit crabs are also laying eggs but I don't raise any of them anymore.

I would like some blue stripes if/when you have fry I use to breed them and dwarf seahorses amanda

[Almon]

I can take them once they can be fed on frozen or dried cyclopeeze, and raise them in my anemone/coral tub(s).....I should be able to deal with the distribution issue as well.

 

Maybe a portion of any potential proceeds could go back into WAMAS?

There really needs to be an unbrella group or organization to help with things like:

• networking between the other breeders
  
• providing training and education
  
• provide standardized guidelines
  
• financial support for startup costs
  
• building relationships in the industry and local/federal govt.
  
• bookeeping services
  
• marketing services
  

It would be wonderful if WAMAS was interested in participating in this effort. It would probably be helpful for both WAMAS and the local breeders. But whether it's WAMAS or an incorporated Co-op, this is a great idea and deserves to move forward.

[Boret]

I am in. Have no experience in breeding whatsoever, but would like to participate.

[ctenophore]

There really needs to be an unbrella group or organization to help with things like:

• networking between the other breeders
  
• providing training and education
  
• provide standardized guidelines
  
• financial support for startup costs
  
• building relationships in the industry and local/federal govt.
  
• bookeeping services
  
• marketing services
  

It would be wonderful if WAMAS was interested in participating in this effort. It would probably be helpful for both WAMAS and the local breeders. But whether it's WAMAS or an incorporated Co-op, this is a great idea and deserves to move forward.

 

The co-op that I mentioned in the earlier post has already started on a lot of this; the thing to do first is get the technical issues worked out first, namely the breeder chain (eggs->hatching->growout). Once we have a system that works for producing salable animals, then we can start on organizational infrastructure and scaling. Networking and marketing has started in form of this website, we have a list of 50 or so interested breeders/propagators, LFSes, etc. We have started talking about standardization guidelines & best practices, but nothing has been organized to the point of being publishable as a white paper or anything like that. We definitely need to put someone in charge of organizing information for points (2) (3) (6) (7) above. Boret, maybe this can be you

 

I like the concept of "specialists" for each part of the breeder chain as we've discussed previously, I think it makes the effort a lot easier within a given region. I think the concept of regional divisions (mainly production but also for most of the distribution) is important and something that the group of coral growers I have been working with haven't focused on.

 

So, step one in my view is to develop a working supply chain in our area, write up a blueprint describing our practices, then start looking to scale our effort locally and spread the practice to other regions. This would make a very nice MACNA/IMAC/MAX presentation by next year.

[Almon]

So, step one in my view is to develop a working supply chain in our area, write up a blueprint describing our practices, then start looking to scale our effort locally and spread the practice to other regions.

 

I agree: Develop the successful breeding chain (the working model).

 

I can help with the bookkeeping. I can also provide a private collaborative workspace on the web to store the documents, guidelines, instructions, calendars, and such...I'll give everyone that participates a username/password.

 

Who wants to participate? We need interested people to begin developing the first two (2) links of the chain, the egg supplier and the hatchery. When we are successful, Justin will be ready with the third link, to take our juneniles and grow them out for distrubution.

 

Who wants to provide eggs to others? Who wants to hatch eggs (your own and what others have provided)? Who has a big tub (greenhouse optional) and would like to growout the juveniles?

 

Egg Suppliers

Doug

Almon

 

Hatchers

Doug

Almon

 

Growout and Distribution

Justin

[DaveS]

Put me down for supplying Ocellaris eggs for now. Later on I hope to be able to help with hatching.

 

I agree that we should get the breeding chain going first. The other stuff is all "overhead" in the sense that if we can't make the chain happen successfully, the rest is irrelevant. We may find (I hope we don't) that the guys doing the hatching can't keep up with it or lose interest. In my opinion, that step is probably the most vulnerable since Justin has the latter ones covered for now.

Edited August 27, 2009 by DaveS

[reefmontalvo]

I agree: Develop the successful breeding chain (the working model).

 

I can help with the bookkeeping. I can also provide a private collaborative workspace on the web to store the documents, guidelines, instructions, calendars, and such...I'll give everyone that participates a username/password.

 

Who wants to participate? We need interested people to begin developing the first two (2) links of the chain, the egg supplier and the hatchery. When we are successful, Justin will be ready with the third link, to take our juneniles and grow them out for distrubution.

 

Who wants to provide eggs to others? Who wants to hatch eggs (your own and what others have provided)? Who has a big tub (greenhouse optional) and would like to growout the juveniles?

 

Egg Suppliers

Doug

Almon

 

Hatchers

Doug

Almon

 

 

Growout and Distribution

Justin

 

Im currently growing phyto and will be ready in the next two days to start the next culture. Im making about two 2liters every two weeks. So if you need Rotifer food I can help in that way. Just give me ample notice before asking that way I can get the bottle prepaired.

 

I will probably start the Rotifer culture this weekend.

 

Chris

Edited August 27, 2009 by reefmontalvo

[ctenophore]

Im currently growing phyto and will be ready in the next two days to start the next culture. Im making about two 2liters every two weeks. So if you need Rotifer food I can help in that way. Just give me ample notice before asking that way I can get the bottle prepaired.

 

I will probably start the Rotifer culture this weekend.

 

Chris

This is another very important facet we should consider, essentially a 4th step- food provider. Even if people like Chris aren't hatching fish, they can keep active cultures of food readily available for hatchers. Having redundant supplies on hand helps mitigate the risk of a culture crash and resulting cost of overnighting a fresh supply.

[russell_wiley]

I am interested. I have a mated pair of yellow stripe maroon clowns that I would be willing to use. I just got them, & I have never bred them. So, I don't really know what I am doing. Any help would be great! I would donate the eggs, maybe even raise them if I knew how.

-Russ

[L8 2 RISE]

I have a big tub as a refugium that I would be happy to use to keep fish. It sounds like Justin has the clowns sorted out with 1-2000 per tub, but say for other types of fish, or other types of clowns.

[Almon]

Put me down for supplying Ocellaris eggs for now.

Added to the list.

 

Im currently growing phyto and will be ready in the next two days to start the next culture. Im making about two 2liters every two weeks. So if you need Rotifer food I can help in that way. Just give me ample notice before asking that way I can get the bottle prepaired.

Chris, do you have a breeding pair of fish and will you be raising your own fry?

 

I am interested. I have a mated pair of yellow stripe maroon clowns that I would be willing to use. I just got them, & I have never bred them. So, I don't really know what I am doing. Any help would be great! I would donate the eggs, maybe even raise them if I knew how.

-Russ

Added to the list.

 

I have a big tub as a refugium that I would be happy to use to keep fish. It sounds like Justin has the clowns sorted out with 1-2000 per tub, but say for other types of fish, or other types of clowns.

Thanks. If successful, we will need several grow out breeders.

[reefmontalvo]

No fish at this present time.

 

I'm making sure all the equipment is good. I have a 10g tank and a 5g tank filled at a slinity of 1.021 with simple sponge filters. I introduced some of my main tank water in each tank as to keep them both close to the same. I have provisions for hatching brine shrimp eggs and storing brine shrimp somewhat long term, but I figure most of it will just get feed into the main display tank.

 

I'm picking up my neon gobies this Sunday. Whatever pairs dont match up Im throwing into my main dispaly tank.

[www.fishnreef.com]

Guy, just saw this thread. This sounds great....I can help on the holding. Probably in other ways too. Will then need to work backwords to the breeding! :-)

Nadir

[Grav]

I have an on again, off again breeding pair of black Ocelarius. Waiting on a pair of Picassos... any day now for months!!! Currently the blacks are "off again." When they are "on again" Doug has raised a few batches with good success, and I've helped find good homes for the offspring of both black and "standard" clowns.

 

There are a lot of fish on the list above we are often looking for... clowns, bangaii, neons, and more that we would be happy to buy in semi-bulk.

[Almon]

The current batch of eggs hatched last night. The female Clarkii will lay again tomorrow evening.

 

She was laying on the back wall, on the glass. I have put in two tiles completely covering the area that they were using. I'll let you know on Sunday how it goes.

 

Doug/Phil: guppychao has a breeding pair that lay eggs on a large rock that's part of the reef and can't be easily taken out of the tank. Do you have suggestions for William to persuade the clowns to lay eggs on something else? I would try putting a piece of a tile or broken flower pot next to that rock.

[Grav]

Yep. A tile right over where they are laying the eggs now. If that doesnt work, re-scape the tank, or move the anemone to force them to choose a new spot and put several tile in the area.

[Almon]

I also have rots I'd be willing to donate. Bring to meeting? I keep mine going with algae pastes, not live phyto.

 

What products (algae pastes) do you use?

[Almon]

I am interested. I have a mated pair of yellow stripe maroon clowns that I would be willing to use. I just got them, & I have never bred them. So, I don't really know what I am doing. Any help would be great! I would donate the eggs, maybe even raise them if I knew how.

-Russ

Russ,

 

When the Maroon clowns begin laying eggs, let us know. You will want to persuade them to lay on a tile or small rock that can be easily removed.

[Almon]

They laid eggs again. Unfortunately, the Anemone moved the tiles and they laid in the same spot they have been using, on the back glass wall. Next week, I will add another tile.

[fosterspike]

this is a great idea, at my first meeting with Anthony Calfo as the guest speaker, they talked about the threat of wild caught fish becoming illegal.

 

i want to breed some clowns, mandarins, and cuttlefish. im restarting my tank now though after a tank crash so i have a ways to go.

Edited August 31, 2009 by fosterspike

[reefmontalvo]

Well got the neons today. There were only 4 at the store. I placed them in a fish breeder style container in the tank. To try and see which ones would pair up looked pretty good for a while there. But as I left to go help a buddy with his car, I noticed I was now at 3 neon gobies and not 4. I said oh well one escaped into the tank that was my plan for the ones that didnt pair up. But when I returned from helping my buddy two more became escape artist and swam out. I gave up and just placed the last one in the tank. After careful inspection I found all of them hanging out behind some rock work. Guess it will be back to BRK next week or when ever they get another shipment of them.

[Jon Lazar]

Well got the neons today. There were only 4 at the store. I placed them in a fish breeder style container in the tank. To try and see which ones would pair up looked pretty good for a while there. But as I left to go help a buddy with his car, I noticed I was now at 3 neon gobies and not 4. I said oh well one escaped into the tank that was my plan for the ones that didnt pair up. But when I returned from helping my buddy two more became escape artist and swam out. I gave up and just placed the last one in the tank. After careful inspection I found all of them hanging out behind some rock work. Guess it will be back to BRK next week or when ever they get another shipment of them.

 

What kind of neon gobies are they, exactly? A solid blue stripe, or a combination gold and blue stripe?

[reefmontalvo]

What kind of neon gobies are they, exactly? A solid blue stripe, or a combination gold and blue stripe?

 

The solid blue stripe. I nocited two of them are hooked up this morning stayn close. But then that is probably cause there still new to the tank after escaping the breeding net. I plan and have budgeted to get more.

[dbartco]

What products (algae pastes) do you use?

http://www.reed-store.com/?category=46&amp...roductid=NAN-QT

 

or

 

http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/c1/c6/Nan...nwater-c34.html

 

or similar. you can also use Rotifer diet by Reeds mariculture for smaller setups, but they don't last s long

[Almon]

Someone asked me what species of marine fish are currently being captive bred. Here is a list of what Oceans, Reefs, Aquariums (ORA) breeds:

1. 
   Clownfish
   

• True Percula
  
• False Percula
  
• Clarkii
  
• Two Banded
  
• Tomato
  
• Coral Sea
  
• Fire
  
• Australian
  
• Gold Striped Maroon
  
• Orange Skunk
  
• Pink Skunk
  
• Saddleback
  

Dottybacks

• Orchid
  
• Indigo
  
• Striped
  
• Sunrise
  
• Neon
  
• Springer's
  

Gobies and Blennies

• Canary
  
• Neon
  
• Black line fang
  
• Yellow-line
  
• Hybrid Cleaner
  
• Yellow Kuda
  
• Brazillian
  

Cardinalfish

• Banggai
  
• Blue-streak
  
• Pajama
  

Seahorses

• Zebra-snout
  
• Short-snout
  
• Tiger-tail
  
• Dwarf
  

Yellow Assesor