discretekarma March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 I've been talking to my wife about how we want to redo our 180. Once I decided to redo our 180 I really was excited and trying to get my wife onboard. My wife really didn't act like she was interested. At first I was confused and disapointed until I found out that she wanted a bigger tank than our 180. this is where I need your help. She said she wants another 6' tank and she likes the 24" depth but she wants one that is taller than 24". Does such a tank exist? At first we were talking about that half circle but that doesn't allow many options as far as arranging furniture or inside the tank. Is there a tank that's like 72"L x 24"D x 36"H or is that something that needs to be custom made? Also, she doesn't like having any pipes behind the tank so this would need to be all drilled in the bottom.
gastone March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 Go wider, not taller. The biggest complaint I here from people is that they want more depth (front to back) so they can really play with the rockwork. 6'x'3'x2 sounds sweet, and with the 24" height you are fine with 250w hallides. Going deeper may necessitate 400w if you want to keep SPS top to bottom. Go around and look at some of the membership's larger tanks. If you are going to upgrade now, might as well make it the last one for a long, long time and do it right. G.
discretekarma March 11, 2008 Author March 11, 2008 (edited) Her main issue is that she wants it eye height. I'd also like Acrylic. Edited March 11, 2008 by discretekarma
flowerseller March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 Measure the doors in your house and go 1" smaller from there. I have a 30" tall tank and love it.
Nitro Junkie March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 I'm with gaston on this one. If you gonna go through the effort let alone the $$$$$ you might as well make it "the tank" and factor height into the tank size and stand construction
Grav March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 Perfecto 265g with a custom stand. It is a taller tank, but having a taller stand really makes a difference. With acrylic, anything is possible.
discretekarma March 11, 2008 Author March 11, 2008 I found exactly what I was talking about on the GlassCages site. It's a 240 tall which is 72Lx24Dx31H. They have glass and I'd really like acrylic.
flowerseller March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 It's a 240 tall which is 72Lx24Dx31H. They have glass and I'd really like acrylic. Get in line with NAGA if you want acrylic.
lanman March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 I found exactly what I was talking about on the GlassCages site. It's a 240 tall which is 72Lx24Dx31H. They have glass and I'd really like acrylic. Oh, man... someone was selling one about last November - for a very good price (glass). I didn't buy it because I wanted it only 24" tall (short arms). I have my 60" x 36" x 24" tank on a tall stand. The center of the tank is at MY (short legs, too) eye level. Everyone likes the 36" width. bob
SteffiePoo March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 I wish you luck with a new tank and I cant wait to see it!!!!
steveoutlaw March 11, 2008 March 11, 2008 Why compromise??? I say you go 72H x 30D x 30H! You get the best of both worlds.
jamesbuf March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 Why compromise??? I say you go 72H x 30D x 30H! You get the best of both worlds. Agreed. Perfecto 265g with a custom stand. It is a taller tank, but having a taller stand really makes a difference. With acrylic, anything is possible. I thought that was a 8' tank?
Grav March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 The perfecto is 7*2*29 tall. The Oceanic 220 is 6*2*29. Don't get a glass cages, there is a difference between getting a good deal and getting a cheap tank. One involves water on the floor. You want custom / acrylic? NAGA is your man.
scott711 March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 do a taller stand. It is very hard to get to the bottom of anything taller than 24 unless you have really long arms.
davelin315 March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 Don't know how far Potomac is, but you should swing by my house and see my tank. It's 84"x32"Hx30"D. Try and reach hand in to the bottom and this will give you a good idea of how high you want your tank. It's beautiful to see the top to bottom height, but it definitely makes maintenance on the bottom a bit more difficult. I bought mine used and love the tank, despite the height.
jnguyen4007 March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 Don't know how far Potomac is, but you should swing by my house and see my tank. It's 84"x32"Hx30"D. Try and reach hand in to the bottom and this will give you a good idea of how high you want your tank. It's beautiful to see the top to bottom height, but it definitely makes maintenance on the bottom a bit more difficult. I bought mine used and love the tank, despite the height. I'm still shopping around, but the price Naga quoted me for a 5'X30"X30 custom built acrylic tank is really good. With it, you can drill it anywhere. I want a tank where I can have the bottom drilled as well so that one day, I can use the tank as a room divider and have a view of the tank from 3 out 4 sides.
ctenophore March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 I agree on maximum height and width. I'd go 6*3*3 if I were you. You're doing big fish and low maintenance corals, right? A good pair of tongs will let you pick up stuff on the bottom. You won't be gluing tiny frags to the bottom rocks anyway. I'd love to help you design a nice aquascape for a tall fish-only/low light reef. You could make a giant overhang or vertical wall that your fish could patrol. Possibilities really open up with extra height. Maybe wait and see how my tall tank turns out. I should be firing up the lights within the next week or so. If it appeals to you, let me know and I'll be glad to help you do yours better.
NAGA March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 The price I pm'd you was for a 8 foot tank as I understand it to be. A 6 foot tank is a lot less. Your gonna want to stay at 30" or below though to keep the yield out of the sheet high. Break certain dimensions and another sheet of material has to be purchased hence the price going up a lot. For You and anyone else thinking about large tanks; Sheets of the thicker material come in 6' x 8', 4'x8', 6'x10' or sometimes 5 footers are available but, not often. So say you want a 8 foot long by 3 foot tall tank...............then a 6'x8' sheet gets you excellent yield and max's out the most for the money. Another great efficient size is a 240 long 8'x2'x2' as two 4'x8' sheets does that tank nicely with little waste. A 180 is another great one as 1 6'x8' sheet of 1/2" does the whole tank. So if you think in terms like that you can figure out quite easily what tank you can have using the sheets of material most efficiently to keep prices to a minimum. Anything longer than 10ft. really gets pricey..............I mean real pricey and that' s not from a fabricating point of view but, rather a price point of view............those sheets are a ton of money. discretkarma, I would figure out what length you want first then pick the height either being 24" tall or 30" tall. 36" if your doing a fish only tank perhaps as 36" tall would be hard to deal with for a reef. at 30" tall your looking at 3/4" material with a pretty open top and with 1" you could really open the top up having minimal bracing. hth's Jeff
ErikS March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 I found exactly what I was talking about on the GlassCages site. It's a 240 tall which is 72Lx24Dx31H. They have glass and I'd really like acrylic. If it's acrylic then it's Jeff - go with the best, don't mess with the rest. Depth? I wouldn't go over 24", makes getting to the lower reaches a PITA. Any Saturday between 11:00am & 1:00pm you can see the "fun" of cleaning a taller acrylic tank. Even with relatively narrow top bracing reaching the bottom is armpit depth - the lower rear? Forget it, that's going to mean a snorkel (from the front - you'd need rear access). Personally I'd go with 24" and adjust the stand so you achieve the desired height = best of both worlds. Wide makes aquascaping easy.
flowerseller March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 What ever size you end up with, one of the dimentions has to be smaller than any door in your house the new tank has to go through to get onto the stand. Going down stairs or around corners only adds to the thrill on installation.
NAGA March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 Then again you can have the tank built in the room it's going in. Not too difficult to do and you can watch it being made.
ErikS March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 Then again you can have the tank built in the room it's going in. Not too difficult to do and you can watch it being made. Egad! That's enough to make me want a new tank
flowerseller March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 Egad! That's enough to make me want a new tank That's the offer he made to me after seeing his new tanks in my house. I've seen his shop and the plastic shaving alone from a router could fill a tractor trailer.
ErikS March 12, 2008 March 12, 2008 That's the offer he made to me after seeing his new tanks in my house. I've seen his shop and the plastic shaving alone from a router could fill a tractor trailer. Thanks for the reminder, been a while since..................yep, I remember when he modified the rim on my tank - that made a mess................good thing the basement wasn't finished at the time But if he's already cut & jointed the pieces?
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