CaptainRon December 26, 2012 Share December 26, 2012 My two snowflakes are separate from each other all the time - Often at different ends of the tank! The don't battle each other but the sure don't stick to each other like glue either. I'm hoping they actuall do become a nice little pair in the future. It's pretty cool that yours became such good buddies so quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf December 26, 2012 Share December 26, 2012 Looks good Evan, what I can see, nice fish pickup!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roni December 26, 2012 Share December 26, 2012 Evan, that tank looks fantastic. Nice pair of clowns. Let me know if you need some help getting the 156 going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf December 26, 2012 Share December 26, 2012 Evan, that tank looks fantastic. Nice pair of clowns. Let me know if you need some help getting the 156 going. +1 If you do the move on a weekend, would also love to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraffitiSpotCorals December 26, 2012 Share December 26, 2012 Nice pics! You should do some top down pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT December 29, 2012 Author Share December 29, 2012 well actually got some more work done today though it was only a little its still a step closer got the overflows cleaned up and then worked a little on the stand, had to take a few things apart so I can actually level the tank when i put it in. tomorrow morning the plan is to epoxy/seal the basement and then get the wife and child out of the house so the fumes dont get me kicked out. of course i realized a few minutes ago the can of epoxy i have is for bare masonry and its painted.....home depot trip early tomorrow i guess. well here are some pics of the end product....still have a little cleaning up to do and need to take the paint of the back pane i think i may be up for the slowest build thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve175 December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 It's gonna be worth the wait! Keep 'em coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldReefer December 29, 2012 Share December 29, 2012 You are going to have one heck of a frag sale when you transfer that livestock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 5, 2013 Author Share January 5, 2013 Well ok start to the new year sealed up the wall the tank will go on, got the stand in today...not set but in the room so i can start lining things up. Not level yet have a BUNCH of shimming to do...floor is kind nimbly bimbly......right meow....smell only took a day or so to get rid of which was nice.... just need to cut the one side of the wall and figure out what i need to do for framing...hopefully that step will be the next completed update....its slow going but i at least have the stand down here to prove some progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k January 5, 2013 Share January 5, 2013 meow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 6, 2013 Author Share January 6, 2013 got the black paint taken off the back of the tank and am getting ready to drill the overflow holes....need to do a little more planning before i actually drill though. so may just start working on the wall framing instead...we shall see. also trying to figure out the overflows so i can drill the tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amuze January 7, 2013 Share January 7, 2013 (edited) hmm. i would not do the overflows directly under that brace. could be a pita if a problem were to occur, clogging and cleaning, etc.. Edited January 7, 2013 by Amuze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoutlaw January 7, 2013 Share January 7, 2013 (edited) There are a few on the beananimal thread on reefcentral that show all three over to one side. Also, you want to make sure that your full syphon is a good 1-2" below your secondary (pipe entrance, not the hole). I tried to have all of them at the same height and the full syphon would never catch because the secondary would always kick in before it had that chance. This is how I started off And this is how I got it running smoothly I put eggcrate in the bulkhead hold to keep any large stuff out of it (I have that on all the holes). Edited January 7, 2013 by steveoutlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 8, 2013 Author Share January 8, 2013 Thanks for the pics steve i was very confused in beans thread about how two pipes at the same height would not both try to syphon looking at the glassholes rob mentioned, looks like they use a small piece of acrylic to stop the syphon from sucking air/whirlpool effect. im thinking of doing something similar to the glass holes going to have an L-channel made out of acrylic and most likely will have beanish overflow...aka 3 holes (i know the emergency drain is that 1 in a million shot and ive been fine with 2 in my main and only 1 in my frag) but i think the wife will like me saying it has an emergency drain thing i do like about the glass holes is how low profile they have the internal box....going to try and mimmic this but not sure if that will actually play out that way.... may do a glass holes style overflow and then add an emergency drain a little bit higher up so i wont need an elbow or ill say forget it i dont have enough time and just drill and do the bean with a normal coast to coast. Cut the wall a little last night and its all the steel studs, so im tyring to figure out if they will support the viewing window or if i am going to have to splice in some wood (used to working with wood so maybe im over thinking the weight it would handle) but plan to have it look somethign like this but with a stone sill. would like to mount it flush but to get the cantelever id have to add another piece of wood to teh top and it would make the stand a bit higher than i want, and im running out of room in the ceiling.....and it would be harder to seal the wall/have to cut a bunch away (and i want to be able to return this wally to a non fish tank wall at some point in time....a long period of time but still. anyone worked with steel studs before, you think it will be easy to make a sill that would support this type of window?? it would be 5ftx2ft square......i see adding the track for the sill is pretty easy (tin snips/screws etc) just not sure how it would hand the weight if someone leans on it etc...im guessing fine since ive seen windows done like this on exterior walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 13, 2013 Author Share January 13, 2013 Well actually have a pretty good update to give Measurements made, hopefully done right. biting nails foget it lets get it done First hole ever drilled 2 more done i think they came out good enough and as most said its much easier than one thinks...my template worked great and no skipping of the bit. first one came out a little rough but the gasket covers it all. now i just need to decide on internal or external....im thinking and external glass with an internal acrylic shallow as a back up....technically the glass should do just fine with a silicon seal but i dont know ill have to decide once i get the tank in the room and make sure there is enough room etc. got a home depot trip in for the fraiming supplies and that will be the next project woooptie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind January 13, 2013 Share January 13, 2013 Congrats on drilling your first hole!! Remember to lay something inside the tank, like a towel, to catch the plug when you drill through. I saw one fall and crack the tank, just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 13, 2013 Author Share January 13, 2013 yeh when drillling i had that towel underneath but the duct tape held it each time....definately thought about somethign like that happening though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoozilla January 13, 2013 Share January 13, 2013 Nice looking holes for being a 1st timer. Hard parts behind you now and should be all downhill from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoutlaw January 15, 2013 Share January 15, 2013 Go with the external - They are awesome..........you won't regret it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 15, 2013 Author Share January 15, 2013 Thanks, i thought they looked terrible but will do, i think next time i would secure a piece of wood below the hole so the glass doesnt get pushed out, i used duct tape and it only sorta worked....i would think if a piece of wood was below it and secured to the glass it would be less likely to chip as the last thin piece would not be broken by the weight of the drill/any pressure i put on it. but i could be wrong Steve pretty sure you convinced me to go external...now i just need to decide on glass thickness etc. and make sure it wont be in the way of working on the tank etc...(not the largest room it will be placed in....im guessing 1/4-1/2 glass would be plenty...ill probalby go thicker cause it wont cost much more and will make me worry less. now where to get glass...any suggestions?? i know home depot sells it but im thinking of getting it cut somewhere for me then ill do the drilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoutlaw January 16, 2013 Share January 16, 2013 Go in the middle with 3/8". I would look up glass shops in your area. I've had them cut it and sand the edges. they are still flat but you won't cut yourself on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt January 16, 2013 Share January 16, 2013 Sounds like a good idea, wish I'd gotten my sump baffles polished....human blood isnt toxic to our fish is it ? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT January 22, 2013 Author Share January 22, 2013 (edited) Finally got some more to update, getting much closer but still have alot to go. No turning back now. oh boy first time working with metal studs. preliminary look from the basement playroom/tvroom metal is easier to work with than i thought, still prefer the wood but only cut myself twice and got the rest of it framed in and level ***edit the bowing the on the top right was fixed*** now i just need to go pick out the Trim and seal up the back of it, and then paint.......hopefully ill have that done this week then ill be calling for a little help to get the tank downstairs (3 of us should be fine, moved it out with two but that thing is heavy) then ill have to fill it up and get her level as the floor is NOT level......do some finishing painting of the trim/sill etc and that should be all I would really like to have a piece of Granite or somekind of stone vs wood on the trim but time is getting to me, I may end up putting some Tile down but i want to see how it looks first with just the white wood. if anyone is any good at cutting stone/has a saw/ and or some scrap that would fit well please let me know (5 foot opening)...... i think thats it for now.... Edited January 22, 2013 by Der ABT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind January 22, 2013 Share January 22, 2013 Nice job on the opening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf January 22, 2013 Share January 22, 2013 (edited) Looks good Evan, are you going to have any access to the tank from the front? Edited January 22, 2013 by surf&turf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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