Curtis Scott October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 (edited) I can't find a reasonably priced generator because they are all sold out. What is a good alternative backup power supply? I've seen people use boat batteries and a few other options. Just wondering if I could possible put something together tonight just encase. Thanks edit: I do have a pm into DaveS about his generator, but think I might be too late. Edited October 26, 2012 by Curtis Scott
Origami October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 What's "reasonably priced" and what wattage are you looking for, Curtis?
Kevin Garrison October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 Computer battery back ups for circulation and air pumps. I have 750va 500w units set up on both my tanks. I may not have return pumps, but I'll have circulation and air turn over. I can always plug in the return pump and skimmer as well for periods of time. But I don't think we've lost power for more than a minute or two in Centreville the entire time we've lived here. Closest place is going to be Micro Center in Vienna.
SunWyrm October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 Computer battery back ups for circulation and air pumps. I have 750va 500w units set up on both my tanks. I may not have return pumps, but I'll have circulation and air turn over. I can always plug in the return pump and skimmer as well for periods of time. But I don't think we've lost power for more than a minute or two in Centreville the entire time we've lived here. Closest place is going to be Micro Center in Vienna. Do you know how long do those last in the event of a power outage?
Curtis Scott October 26, 2012 Author October 26, 2012 Tom, around $500-$700 tops for a solid backup solution, preferably a generator with 3500 - 5000 running watts. This would be able to handle my tanks, fridge and a few other things. Since I can't really find one right now with the storm on its way, I'm open to other solutions. Kevin, that's what I was thinking about. I've been in Centreville for last few years and only had the power go out for a couple hours in the past. If power does go out, how long (hours) do you think something like this will last if I was running just my main pump, heater and power-heads?
Curtis Scott October 26, 2012 Author October 26, 2012 Found a similar model... "Supports entry-level PC systems up to 35 min. during blackouts" :( http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Tripp-Lite-750VA-450W-UPS-Desktop-Battery-Back-Up-Compact-120V-USB-RJ11-PC/981415.aspx#PO I'm not convinced this would be worth it if that's the battery life. Still searching...
Coral Hind October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 It would not last long running a heater. Best to only run the pump or power head. You need to add up the wattage of your items and use the chart here as a guide. http://www.apc.com/products/runtime_for_extendedruntime.cfm?upsfamily=165
Coral Hind October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 Harbor Freight sent me an email this morning that they have a 3200/4000w genset on sale for $289.99 with a coupon. Check out their website.
flooddc October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 Try Costco for a generator. Most likely, retails will not have any. If you can get you hand on an power inverter, grab it! It save my tank during the last power outage that lasted 3+ days.
AOberheim October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 fortunately I was one out of three that got their hands on a generator from costco, its a 9KW (9000w) and it was $699 w/ remote start and will power my tank and fridge with ease including 2 metal halides and all pumps!, save as much $ as you can through this storm with a battery bubbler $15 pristine had them earlier this week, not sure about right now (I survived derecho with the loss of one tiny green chromis) and buy one of these when its not panic mode.
AOberheim October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 big +1 to flooddc - again I got the first out of 3 (very fortunately) from the springfield costco, but they were sold out 3.5 seconds after opening today. the power inverter and an extension cord ran my return pump (mag 9), one mp40, one mp10, and my skimmer over the summer for the last storm. Heat was my problem, which hopefully you won't have to worry about.
Kevin Garrison October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 (edited) For me, I don't need my heater attached, my basement is the warmest area of the house... probably from the humidity of the fish tanks, so my temp stays up pretty well when the lights are out. If you are just running the pumps a battery back up should last a while. This is what I'm running: http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=3007 Edited October 26, 2012 by Kevin Garrison
Ryan S October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 Kevin, how are UPSs different than the ecotech battery backup? Is it the same thing?
Curtis Scott October 26, 2012 Author October 26, 2012 (edited) Thanks for all the feedback everyone! I think I will stop by best buy today to see what battery back ups they have and hold off on the generator for now. Since the most important things are the air pump and power heads. It will be easier to find generators after the storm passes I'm sure. Edited October 26, 2012 by Curtis Scott
ToddR October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 I use 3 bait bucket air pump attached to old style corner bubbler filters filled with carbon. 2 D cell batteries are supposed to last 60 hours. I've never had to use them that long but they ready for the storm.
Hilary October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 For my 90 gallon I use a boat battery and inverter for the display - that runs the return for about 12+ hours. After that an air bubbler in the sump (don't forget the sump!) and two in the display. One bubbler in the smaller tanks (< 24 gallons) worked fine for several days after the derecho.
Origami October 26, 2012 October 26, 2012 Tom, around $500-$700 tops for a solid backup solution, preferably a generator with 3500 - 5000 running watts. This would be able to handle my tanks, fridge and a few other things. Since I can't really find one right now with the storm on its way, I'm open to other solutions. Kevin, that's what I was thinking about. I've been in Centreville for last few years and only had the power go out for a couple hours in the past. If power does go out, how long (hours) do you think something like this will last if I was running just my main pump, heater and power-heads? I picked up a 5KW generator with a Subaru engine last night at HD in Leesburg ($600). They still had several on a skid there. In the next year or two, I may be upgrading to a partial-home solution. But, for now, this will probably have to do. 12-1/2 hours run time on 6 gallons of gas.
davelin315 October 27, 2012 October 27, 2012 Costco and Sam's club have the 9000W generators for around $700-$800 right now. I also picked up a jump starter from Sam's Club last week for recharging my lawn tractor's battery and it has a lighter adapter on the front that could run an inverter. I don't know how long it would run it for, but there's an option for you as well ($60-$70 for the inverter and charger).
Incredible Corals October 27, 2012 October 27, 2012 I wonder if the inverter that is in my wife Honda Odyssey will power a return pump? Going to start looking into that
RubberFrog October 27, 2012 October 27, 2012 ^ It will handle it easy. Just be sure to start the van every hour or so.
Incredible Corals October 27, 2012 October 27, 2012 ^ It will handle it easy. Just be sure to start the van every hour or so. I was thinking of just leaving the van running. Would probably take a long time to go through a tank of gas just idling... Good to know it would work though.
roni October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 those battery powered pumps are pretty nice to have. Last time I didn't have a generator initially and that and a vortech backup ran my main tank and pumps did the smaller tanks.
Origami October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 What is an inverter? Converts a DC voltage source to AC. In this case, 12 Volts DC (like from your car) to 120 VAC.
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