epleeds August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 My Ehiem 1262 is not enough pump on the new tank so I need something that can push more water. I was looking at the Waterblaster pumps and was wondering if anyone is using one and what they thought of it. I ready some reviews on RC, but wanted to see what everyone here thought. It has to be an in-sump return pump, which is my limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 coralhind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 I don't have one yet, but after studying available pumps and creating a bunch of matrices on which to compare them. I decided they water basters were the best value for the money and highest efficiency for their money being very close in efficiency numbers to a red dragon or flow star pump. Again, not first hand, but they do receive pretty decent reliability marks so far, though they haven't been on the market long enough for me to really evaluate well on that front. Bottom line, I intend to buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trockafella August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 Sean (F&F) has said some really good things about them. I think he might be using them as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 its pretty much the same as the bubble blaster pumps just has a different volute (also heard its the same as some pond pumps/red dragon/blah blah blah with a different volute..) i plan to get one as well eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&Fmgr August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 top notch pumps for sure. I have used them as closed loop pumps and return pumps, assuming you dont provide too much head pressure in the use of elbows, valves, and downsized pipes; they really move a ish ton of water. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Ivers August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 I just replaced a reeflo dart with a HY16000 and its much much quieter, has no chance of leaking and my temp actually dropped .2 degrees. Absolutely love mine...go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 okay. So I have 5' of head pressure along with a few 45 degree bends and a 90 degree at the end. With the HY10000, it would be at around 1300 GPH for $260. I also found an ATB Flowstar 1500 which is 1215 GPH at the same head height for $279. Really tempted to go for the ATB, since i have their skimmers and Victor's customer service is top notch. Anyone here have any insight into the ATB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 I just replaced a reeflo dart with a HY16000 and its much much quieter, has no chance of leaking and my temp actually dropped .2 degrees. Absolutely love mine...go for it Is this for a closed loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 In my same look at return pumps the flowstar won out in all categories except for cost (although the waterblaster was a very close second). I don't think you can go wrong with one, but in the end, I am not sure the extra cost is worth it for a very small performance increase. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples on the flow numbers. Always either find the flow at zero head or at some value (say 4 ft) and compare at that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 Chad, I thought you like the Tunze Silence series? Eric, check this out: http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_viewitem.aspx?idproduct=TZ71073&child=TZ71073&gclid=CNK24aqQi7ICFUXf4Aodm3QAwQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 Chad, I thought you like the Tunze Silence series? Eric, check this out: http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_viewitem.aspx?idproduct=TZ71073&child=TZ71073&gclid=CNK24aqQi7ICFUXf4Aodm3QAwQ $385 is way out of my price range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 In my same look at return pumps the flowstar won out in all categories except for cost (although the waterblaster was a very close second). I don't think you can go wrong with one, but in the end, I am not sure the extra cost is worth it for a very small performance increase. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples on the flow numbers. Always either find the flow at zero head or at some value (say 4 ft) and compare at that number. The water blaster is 1300 GPH at 5' and the ATB is 1215 GPH at 5', based off of the website data. Plus its only a $15 dollar difference between the two pumps. My Ehiem is 898 at 0' head but at 5' its only pushing about 525 GPH. My gate valve is almost closed due to the low amount of flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 Sorry, thought you were a baller... haha My skimmer has a bubble blaster pump. If I ever get water in my tank I am looking forward to the performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 Sorry, thought you were a baller... haha My skimmer has a bubble blaster pump. If I ever get water in my tank I am looking forward to the performance. after buying the tank, stand, skimmer and lights, my baller status has diminished greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 I do like the tunze silence series... Flow numbers good, efficiency high, AC sources removed from salt water... There are a lot of good things to say about them. The cost is a bit much, though :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 one nice thing about the waterblaster is the 3 year warranty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trockafella August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 after buying the tank, stand, skimmer and lights, my baller status has diminished greatly. Those items make you a baller.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 Those items make you a baller.! If you didn't have to save for a ring, you would be a baller too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBVette August 28, 2012 Share August 28, 2012 I have the waterblaster 10k sitting in a box waiting for my tanks to show up. Granted I dont think I offered any advice here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds August 28, 2012 Author Share August 28, 2012 I have the waterblaster 10k sitting in a box waiting for my tanks to show up. Granted I dont think I offered any advice here... how long till your tanks show up. we could water test it at my house..hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBVette August 29, 2012 Share August 29, 2012 (edited) How long would you want to run it for? I get the sump in the next week or two, and want to start plumbing then. But if you want to borrow it for a week or so I will let you Edited August 29, 2012 by MBVette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgets August 29, 2012 Share August 29, 2012 This is an awesome pump. It's quiet, easy to maintain and should be plenty flow if your using it as a return. I'm have used several models of this lump and they are perfect. Also the wattage is pretty good. And it has a built in flow adjustment. http://www.marinedepot.com/Eheim_Compact+_5000_Pump_Aquarium_Powerheads_Compact_Pumps-Eheim-EH11036-FIPHCP-EH11052-vi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k August 29, 2012 Share August 29, 2012 I use the same Eheim pumps that Chris is talking about for a return and a feed pump- both work great. I also use the WB 7000 and 5000 for return and closed loop- both work great. The majority of the tanks that I maintain use good old-fashioned Mag-Drives though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind August 29, 2012 Share August 29, 2012 My gate valve is almost closed due to the low amount of flow. Why are you closing your gate valve? I have been running the WB 10k for almost a year now with no complaints. I picked it because Sean at F&F recommended it and we all know that man knows what he is talking about. The price, warranty, and no wanting a pump that leaks like the Reeflos are prone to were three big pros in me picking it. For the large amount of water it pushes it is impressive how near silent it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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