zygote2k January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 I have a small tomato clown and I just added a mature mated pair to the tank. They host in an RBTA. What happens to the small original clown? Does it become male or female or remain juvenile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogurnda January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 I would expect it will be pummeled until it tries to become invisible in one of the corners of the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfish January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 I would expect it will be pummeled until it tries to become invisible in one of the corners of the tank. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsfan January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 What he said ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 Once the mated pair get settled in they will go after the small guy. You'd be better off to remove him now while he still has all his fins intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k January 2, 2009 Author Share January 2, 2009 (edited) Actually at present time, they are all living together in the RBTA. There has been zero signs of aggression from any of the 3. I was wondering if there will be 2 males or 2 females or... Edited January 2, 2009 by zygote2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 2 RISE January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 I agree that after a little while, the mated pair will go after the smaller one. However, if you were to add several at the same time, one will become female, and the rest will be male, untill the female dies, then the biggest male becomes female... I believe this is the way it happens, I remember reading about it, but don't remember exactly, I know that there will be only one female, and the rest will be either juvi's or male. I think I have it right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfish January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 I believe this is the right post but read the following http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?show...mp;#entry236722 When you try to do similar things the story just doesn't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothtriqueter January 2, 2009 Share January 2, 2009 I know it is one female, and I think that it works as the rest male Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmubeach January 3, 2009 Share January 3, 2009 Yep it doesn't work unless you have a HUGE tank the clownfish will pick on the straggler! I've seen it done in a few larger 125 tanks, but the straggler would need his own anemee and would have to fight off the other two.... I've seen it done on a nano scale, but learn from my lesson it can't end well why risk a fish:( I killed a beatiful black occelaris and I feel terrible about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k January 3, 2009 Author Share January 3, 2009 I don't think I'll have to worry about any aggression. They all seem to get along in the same RBTA. My fish are always happy because they live in a more natural setting than most tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 2 RISE January 3, 2009 Share January 3, 2009 (edited) How long have you had the mated pair? This has nothing to do with a more natural tank because in nature, the smaller clown would eventually be bullied to the point of leaving so its irrevelant. Are you sure this is a mated pair and not just two from the same brood or a couple that isnt a pair or mated yet because that might explain it. The main question though is the first I asked in this post because if it is in fact a mated pair, then my bet is that they haven't established themselves fully yet. Edited January 3, 2009 by L8 2 RISE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal January 3, 2009 Share January 3, 2009 I had a mated pair of occelaris in my tank. One died (the female) and I added a trio of small occelaris with the idea of having a little clownfish harem. Two of the new additions have gotten along quite well with the existing clownfish (about 2x their size to start). All three stay close together, rarely venturing far from their anemone island. The 4th never quite fit in though. I never saw any aggression whatsoever, even when he would occasionally stop by and hang out for a while, but for the most part he just did his own thing -- hanging around near the surface and once in a while surfing the overflow. I worried about him though and so I decided to donate him to a new home - where his is quite happily swimming around with another clownfish to the delight of some very appreciative kids. So now I am left with a trio of clownfish in my tank. One big, two small. All seem quite content so far, but I haven't seen any eggs yet so I don't think I have a mated pair. Heck, I might have nothing but a San Fransisco bath house for all I know. Time will tell. The good thing about clownfish though is that they are easy to catch and easy to find new homes for, so if some aggression does develop I plan to be quick with the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 2 RISE January 3, 2009 Share January 3, 2009 This sounds like it's the "typical" clown fish relationship where you have a bunch of juvis/males and when the female dies the largest male becomes one... I'd guess that they start breeding at some point but you never know i guess. I've always wanted to get a large group(say5 or so) of clowns as juvis and go from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaironman January 3, 2009 Share January 3, 2009 If your female dies, get a new one smaller than your current male. They will pair up in time and the larger male will change to become female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k January 3, 2009 Author Share January 3, 2009 I had a mated pair of occelaris in my tank. One died (the female) and I added a trio of small occelaris with the idea of having a little clownfish harem. Two of the new additions have gotten along quite well with the existing clownfish (about 2x their size to start). All three stay close together, rarely venturing far from their anemone island. The 4th never quite fit in though. I never saw any aggression whatsoever, even when he would occasionally stop by and hang out for a while, but for the most part he just did his own thing -- hanging around near the surface and once in a while surfing the overflow. I worried about him though and so I decided to donate him to a new home - where his is quite happily swimming around with another clownfish to the delight of some very appreciative kids. So now I am left with a trio of clownfish in my tank. One big, two small. All seem quite content so far, but I haven't seen any eggs yet so I don't think I have a mated pair. Heck, I might have nothing but a San Fransisco bath house for all I know. Time will tell. The good thing about clownfish though is that they are easy to catch and easy to find new homes for, so if some aggression does develop I plan to be quick with the net. What's a San Francisco bath house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal January 4, 2009 Share January 4, 2009 What's a San Francisco bath house? A completely inappropriate reference which should probably be deleted since this is a family forum . . . but I was referring to the possibility that my very close-knit trio might at the moment be all-male, rather than a "mated" pair or group. Not that there's anything wrong with that . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryL January 4, 2009 Share January 4, 2009 well if you start with all new juvies then you would have one female(larger) one male(smaller) and a juvie(even smaller) then if you lose the female then they will step up in order male=>female and juvie=>male...then you can add another juvie. in the wild there are a set order of juvies to accompany the male and the female in the anemone and the other juvies hang out in the greenwater. then when one of the juvies mature then one of the green water juvies go to the anemone to wait its turn to be all grown up. learned that from daphne fautin in the first WAMAS symposium. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k January 4, 2009 Author Share January 4, 2009 A completely inappropriate reference which should probably be deleted since this is a family forum . . . but I was referring to the possibility that my very close-knit trio might at the moment be all-male, rather than a "mated" pair or group. Not that there's anything wrong with that . . . . How do you know about these "bath houses" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 2 RISE January 4, 2009 Share January 4, 2009 Lol, waaaay off topic much?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k January 4, 2009 Author Share January 4, 2009 well if you start with all new juvies then you would have one female(larger) one male(smaller) and a juvie(even smaller) then if you lose the female then they will step up in order male=>female and juvie=>male...then you can add another juvie. in the wild there are a set order of juvies to accompany the male and the female in the anemone and the other juvies hang out in the greenwater. then when one of the juvies mature then one of the green water juvies go to the anemone to wait its turn to be all grown up. learned that from daphne fautin in the first WAMAS symposium. HTH Thanks- this is what I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 January 5, 2009 Share January 5, 2009 The reef tank at the Museum of Natural History has about 7 clownfish. There is a pair hosted in a giant clam and about 5 or 6 others that take turns entering the space and being chased out, and generally just hang around the edges. I spent about 30 minutes just watching them. The mated (?) pair also occasionally dive into the clam. It's fun to watch especially if you want to see the behavior of a bunch of clowns! Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanCallan January 5, 2009 Share January 5, 2009 A completely inappropriate reference which should probably be deleted since this is a family forum . . . but I was referring to the possibility that my very close-knit trio might at the moment be all-male, rather than a "mated" pair or group. Not that there's anything wrong with that . . . . I thought that was pretty hilarious actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason the filter freak July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 Lets Necro a super old thread. Hey Rob, how did the clown Trio turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k July 26, 2016 Author Share July 26, 2016 I don't even remember which tank they were in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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