yauger July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 so I've been in this hobby for a while now, some would say long enough to know what NOT to do in this hobby. well since the arrival of my 2nd child I have found less and less time to give to my hobby; let alone spend $$ on new corals. so as a result my tank grew some nuisance algae, red slime algae to be exact. experience has taught me what to do in dealing with this type of algae, mainly a result of neglect all I would have to do is use a powerhead and a toothbrush to get the algae off the rocks and do a water change to get it out. continue this method until the algae stays away. well I don't really have time to kick up my water changes (which is now around once every 2 weeks, but it should be weekly) so I had a bright idea. Lets use some RED SLIME REMOVER (you know the yellow powder in a small tube) so for a cool price of $16.99 I tried my luck at it. 6 scoops premixed, skimmer off, carbon off, and turned the lights off... 12 hours later: Toxic Tort Colony Cali Tort Colony Gold Mister Chalice Colony Miami Hurricane Chalice Colony Tyree Tri-color Colony Jason Fox Bloodshots Colony Orange Crush Chailce Colony Highlighter SPS Colony Several Rainbow Acan Colonies UC Ironman Blasto Colony Jason Fox Jack-o-Lantern ALL DEAD. YEAH THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA. So basically being lazy about maintenance has caused me a couple grand in corals. Now my tank looks like the beaches of Normandy scattered about are the skeletons of my prized corals. I'm bummed in a sense that I know coming back from this will take time and $$ I don't have right now; so I just might run my system with fish only for a whole until I can accept defeat and break down the system. Lesson Learned, NEVER take short cuts in this hobby. do it right the first time or don't do it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huly July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 I am so sorry! That sucks! If I had any of the above I would give you a small frag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Wow, that really sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incredible Corals July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 That sucks. Sorry to hear that. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocko918 July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 (edited) nooooooooooooooooooooooo, that sucks man. what ever you need just ask me. sorry. Edited July 3, 2013 by rocko918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Garrison July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Wow... okay your luck sounds like mine... though I have used the red slime stuff before and never had that result... so sorry, wish there was something I could do to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flooddc July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 sorry to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 So sorry, when your ready for SPS hit me up, got alot of the named ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roni July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Man, sorry to hear that. I've got a large colony of miami hurricane you can get a piece of and my jackolantern is growing fairly well and should be fraggable soon. Just let me know when you're ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 thanks everyone, just wanted to post this so others can learn from my mistake. never be lazy when it come to your reef tank. there is NO SUCH THING as a shortcut in this hobby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateCamReef July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Fantastic advice. Ever feel like you "learn the hard way" every time? I do!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 Fantastic advice. Ever feel like you "learn the hard way" every time? I do!!! yeah tell me about it... I don't have a issue with a couple corals dying but almost all of them? dang makes me wanna quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Holy cow, Josh. I'm really sorry for your losses. Red Slime Remover can cause a sudden crash in oxygen levels because it's busy oxidizing organics that may be feeding they cyano. That's the reason they recommend heavy aeration using a big airstone. It drives skimmers nuts, too, so people often shut them down which aggravates the oxygen depletion (or pull the cup and just let it overflow - which has the advantage of aerating the water). Some people say that using half of the recommended dose to start works often enough that it's recommended. This does nothing for your situation. Do the recommended big water changes and start your skimmer if it's off. If it were me, I'd leave the corals in their until I was convinced that all was lost and that a few polyps didn't survive that could repopulate. No fish losses at all in this event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt LeBaron July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Really sorry to hear that. I used this stuff years ago and ended up having to take one of my seahorses to the vet for gas bubble disease afterwards because of it. Red Slime Remover is just terrible stuff that really should not be sold, period as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 That is crazy....your tank was looking soooooo good the other day. I have a frag very similar to your toxic green tort already on a plug when your ready. I also have some mystic sunset if you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 yeah silly mistake on my part due to me being lazy. oh well. time to make a choice. should I stay or should I go? thanks everyone for the frag offers, I just might hit you up for some stuff, but I need to make up my mind if I want to put more $$ into my system or sell it off and put the hardware into storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 Holy cow, Josh. I'm really sorry for your losses. Red Slime Remover can cause a sudden crash in oxygen levels because it's busy oxidizing organics that may be feeding they cyano. That's the reason they recommend heavy aeration using a big airstone. It drives skimmers nuts, too, so people often shut them down which aggravates the oxygen depletion (or pull the cup and just let it overflow - which has the advantage of aerating the water). Some people say that using half of the recommended dose to start works often enough that it's recommended. This does nothing for your situation. Do the recommended big water changes and start your skimmer if it's off. If it were me, I'd leave the corals in their until I was convinced that all was lost and that a few polyps didn't survive that could repopulate. No fish losses at all in this event? nah no fish, only my corals. that stuff is nasty I should have known better than to think a shortcut will be good for me. what's the old saying again? Only bad things happen fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Yeah, only bad things happen fast in a reef tank. Like Eric, I have a toxic green tort colony (from Steve) that's settled in now and starting to grow. I've not fragged it yet. I would for you though (though Eric's closer to you than me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachabballi reef July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 Josh I think for some people situations like this name them realize this hobby isn't for them or they just weren't successful at it. But that is NOT you and your tanks have inspired too many on here for you not to take your lumps and learn that laziness has no place in this hobby and move on better than before. There are a lot of your corals out here that people will help you replenish . Its not your time to get out...its your time to stand up and dust yourself off and tap into your creativity....whether that's to carve out a specific WC time (I've done them at 11pm when its nice and quiet in the house...or resources both financial or creating systems to streamline your process. I agree with Tom and see if a few stray polyps survived. Take a deep breath and just recreate...you have tremendous skills and even bigger support here with WAMAS to pull you through it!!! Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 you know your staying in....so just let me know when your ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integral9 July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 well since the arrival of my 2nd child I have found less and less time to give to my hobby; let alone spend $$ on new corals. so as a result my tank grew some nuisance algae, red slime algae to be exact. experience has taught me what to do in dealing with this type of algae, mainly a result of neglect all I would have to do is use a powerhead and a toothbrush to get the algae off the rocks and do a water change to get it out. continue this method until the algae stays away. well I don't really have time to kick up my water changes (which is now around once every 2 weeks, but it should be weekly) Welcome to the club... Except my problem is Neomeris annulata... For a such a difficult algae to keep around, I am freaking amazing at breading it. It's on almost every single rock, coral stalk & bit of plumbing in my tank. Yes, I have 135g of Neomeris... Ran across this today: http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/301388-green-wormy-things-are-taking-overneomeris/ Where they discussed several different solutions: biological, vinegar, peroxide, drying, chemi-pure, and more... None were successful. The most recent post being: "ok then, neo is currently deemed the worst invader possible to date" *sigh* FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 Welcome to the club... Except my problem is Neomeris annulata... For a such a difficult algae to keep around, I am freaking amazing at breading it. It's on almost every single rock, coral stalk & bit of plumbing in my tank. Yes, I have 135g of Neomeris... Ran across this today: http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/301388-green-wormy-things-are-taking-overneomeris/ Where they discussed several different solutions: biological, vinegar, peroxide, drying, chemi-pure, and more... None were successful. The most recent post being: "ok then, neo is currently deemed the worst invader possible to date" *sigh* FML I hear ya, I had gone through that a long time ago and the end result was to break it all down and start with new rock and corals... bummer broski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 Josh I think for some people situations like this name them realize this hobby isn't for them or they just weren't successful at it. But that is NOT you and your tanks have inspired too many on here for you not to take your lumps and learn that laziness has no place in this hobby and move on better than before. There are a lot of your corals out here that people will help you replenish . Its not your time to get out...its your time to stand up and dust yourself off and tap into your creativity....whether that's to carve out a specific WC time (I've done them at 11pm when its nice and quiet in the house...or resources both financial or creating systems to streamline your process. I agree with Tom and see if a few stray polyps survived. Take a deep breath and just recreate...you have tremendous skills and even bigger support here with WAMAS to pull you through it!!! Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 I don't know about all that, but my system was looking darn good for the past 8 months or so since I setup this new tank. it's not that I've lost the spirit of the hobby. far from it, hence just selling off corals and fish and storage the rest of my equipment. bah! who am I kidding, I'm staying in, just hate seeing my reef look like cr ap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integral9 July 3, 2013 Share July 3, 2013 I hear ya, I had gone through that a long time ago and the end result was to break it all down and start with new rock and corals... bummer broski. That's what I am hearing. I am willing to try one more thing before I go that route though. Good old, Biogaurd granular calcium chloride. Mix 1lb of that in a 18g rubber maid bin and soak the rocks in it. If that doesn't kill it, well. I am afraid the only that will is probably copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yauger July 3, 2013 Author Share July 3, 2013 you know your staying in....so just let me know when your ready... thanks broski, TOM you too bro! I'm thinking of moving far away from SPS since they are a P.I.T.A. maybe go for a tank like Travis. dunno, all I do know is that as of now I maybe have 1/3rd of my corals still alive but looking like crud. haven't had the lights on for 2 days now. scared to turn them on to see the end result. oh well, another WC tonight and one more for tomorrow, then off to BRK to buy Dr TIMS bio stuff and start over with coral population. the scolys were hanging in there yesterday but looking like junk, I'm hoping that I don't have to trash them as the cost is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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