rebekwl April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 Okay here it goes.. I have an ongoing debate in my kingdom right now. I think that 1lb per gallon is sufficent, however the "Queen" seems to believe that 1.5 -2lbs is where we should be based on a higher fish occupancy. I think that Since we will have a fuge, DSB and my skimmer is "oversized" for the tank, there is no need for all the extra poundage of LR.. Any opinions are appreciated (Hopefully in my favor) but, lets be honest i will not win this either way.
sachabballi reef April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 i vote with the king...and depending on the size of the rock it could even be less....
rebekwl April 20, 2013 Author April 20, 2013 i vote with the king...and depending on the size of the rock it could even be less.... +1
smallreef April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 I like a lot of rock...depending on density and porosity its really different, I say just buy and use pieces you like the look of...more is always better but I don't think less will be a detriment...
rebekwl April 20, 2013 Author April 20, 2013 I like a lot of rock...depending on density and porosity its really different, I say just buy and use pieces you like the look of...more is always better but I don't think less will be a detriment... I guess i just feel like, the more rock you have, the less space for the "fun" stuff you want. I have seen so many tanks with so much LR, that they only have 4" in front of it to place corals on the bed. That coupled with, you never see the livestock cause they hide behind it.. Now In my particular case, I'm setting up a corner 92, so space is at a premium..
Coral Hind April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 Can you place rock in the sump to free up space in the tank?
rebekwl April 20, 2013 Author April 20, 2013 Can you place rock in the sump to free up space in the tank? I planned on placing rubble in the fuge.
sachabballi reef April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 Can you place rock in the sump to free up space in the tank? i doubt it...I had that exact tank and sump space is a HUGE premium....now if he bought that diamond shape sump I tried to tell him about thats a different story lol
rebekwl April 20, 2013 Author April 20, 2013 i doubt it...I had that exact tank and sump space is a HUGE premium....now if he bought that diamond shape sump I tried to tell him about thats a different story lol It's becoming more evident that i may have to do just that.. Or else it may be "Off with his head!" lol
Coral Hind April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 Rubble is better than nothing. A sand bed can also help take the place of rock.
rebekwl April 20, 2013 Author April 20, 2013 Rubble is better than nothing. A sand bed can also help take the place of rock. Yep, That was exactly what i had planned.. Also with be placing cheato in there too.
sachabballi reef April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 It's becoming more evident that i may have to do just that.. Or else it may be "Off with his head!" lol i can only tell you in hindsight....I wish I had that. I had that same tank for 7 years. I loved the H-E-double hockey sticks out of it and hated it because of the sump...I could barely move around in it, gfo, pumps, etc were impossible to work on..it was just really hard. That diamond shape is BRILLIANT and will alleviate so much aggravation for you....it was the single thing that made me hate the tank. I just wasn't smart enough to create anything like that myself....
nbgen12 April 20, 2013 April 20, 2013 One lb per gal is plenty with good porous rock Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2
ToddR April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 heavy dense rock has less surface area than light porous rock. 1lb per gallon of porous rock is plenty.
CaptainRon April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 1 pound per gallon as a guide would be my vote too. Currently, I have just under 150 pounds in my 200.
YHSublime April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 I go with what looks good, and natural. Throw rock in there the way you like it, need more, sump, Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
rebekwl April 21, 2013 Author April 21, 2013 i can only tell you in hindsight....I wish I had that. I had that same tank for 7 years. I loved the H-E-double hockey sticks out of it and hated it because of the sump...I could barely move around in it, gfo, pumps, etc were impossible to work on..it was just really hard. That diamond shape is BRILLIANT and will alleviate so much aggravation for you....it was the single thing that made me hate the tank. I just wasn't smart enough to create anything like that myself.... My only concern with this particular sump, would be my M/H lighting ballast (which is the size of a steel toe boot box) I'm unsure about where i would put it.. The sump seems to be covering every inch of the stand... here is my current sump, which replacing a failed pump etc.. would be painful at best
Origami April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 Pounds per gallon (for live rock) makes about as much sense as watts per gallon (for lighting) in my estimation. For a rock to function as a biological filter, it has to have surface area that can be colonized by bacteria. There's highly porous rock that is light - you can get away with 1 pound per gallon of that. And, there's some really blocky, dense (i.e. heavy) stuff out there that has less surface area - stuff that takes 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 pounds to get the same surface area. It really depends on what you get.
sachabballi reef April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 My only concern with this particular sump, would be my M/H lighting ballast (which is the size of a steel toe boot box) I'm unsure about where i would put it.. The sump seems to be covering every inch of the stand... here is my current sump, which replacing a failed pump etc.. would be painful at best can you tack it up on the wood by your plugs? Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
smallreef April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 I say get that ballast as far away from the water as possible! Especially if your sump could ever overflow... Just scares the crap out of me...I'm with Jenn... Can you nail it up somewhere? Even outside of the stand...maybe in a small cabinet beside your stand that holds all your food and test kits?
mling April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 (edited) What of lighting should you use for LR in the sump / fydge ? I just have a CF from Lowes, cheato does great with it but what about the LR ? Edited April 21, 2013 by mling
Jason Rhoads April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 (edited) My only concern with this particular sump, would be my M/H lighting ballast (which is the size of a steel toe boot box) I'm unsure about where i would put it.. The sump seems to be covering every inch of the stand... here is my current sump, which replacing a failed pump etc.. would be painful at best Is there any way you can mount it into the canopy? I had two 250W ballasts in the canopy of my last tank (although I did need fans in there to keep the heat down). What of lighting should you use for LR in the sump / fydge ? I just have a CF from Lowes, cheato does great with it but what about the LR ? That light is fine for the sump, the bacteria on the LR will not benefit from any higher lighting Edited April 21, 2013 by Jason Rhoads
mling April 21, 2013 April 21, 2013 Before I switched to LED, I mounted Icecap660 and workshorse on a 2x4 right angle, then placed that in the cabinet.
rebekwl April 21, 2013 Author April 21, 2013 can you tack it up on the wood by your plugs? Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 I'm gonna put it on 6" pump ups, which should be fine in case of a flood. However I already simulated a loss of power, and the sump can hold the water...
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