zygote2k May 20, 2009 May 20, 2009 No skimmer needed! ph 8.21 sp gr 1.0295 alk 10.2 dkh cal 475 ppm mag 1380 ppm NO3 16 ppm PO4 0.02 ppm temp 74-78 normal range, 70-82 extreme range all tests with LaMotte, Salifert, and Tropic Marin. 400 10k mh w/ 2) 32w PC's Mag 5 return with eductor. Koralia 2 for circulation. 50w heater. 20 gal fuge on RDP w/ 42w 6500k PC. Rio 90 for circulation. 20 gal sump w/4" DSB. Very colorful corals with strong growth. Predominantly a softie tank, but I also have LPS and SPS. I haven't found anything that won't grow yet. No nuisance algae blooms. Maintenance is 15 gal/wk WC. Daily additions of Reefcode A&B Fish are fed large amounts of food daily. Anybody can build a system like this and have any coral they wish to grow.
Jan May 20, 2009 May 20, 2009 Anybody can build a system like this and have any coral they wish to grow. No pictures?
Stephen May 20, 2009 May 20, 2009 No pictures? I was thinking the same. I'm also curious to know what SPS you're growing in there.
zygote2k May 21, 2009 Author May 21, 2009 plenty of pictures of my setup on the dedicated tank forum. I currently grow some montiporas and a golden digitata. I don't have anymore sps because I haven't found a cheap purple monster frag. Yes, I'd put one of those in here with the confidence that it will grow.
treesprite May 21, 2009 May 21, 2009 The real secret is that he's using Amquel+ . . . . JK Rob, is this the tank I saw at your house?
bravanc May 21, 2009 May 21, 2009 i have seen his tank and very impressed. vibrant colors and healthy corals
treesprite May 21, 2009 May 21, 2009 yes It's a nice tank, I enjoyed seeing and talking about it when I was there. Ever since I saw it I have been curious about whether or not the big shroom has been eating your fish.
lanman May 21, 2009 May 21, 2009 Yes - Rob's tank looks very good. And my frag system has the lowest nitrates of any of my three systems; and it has the most wretched excuse for a skimmer - but a very nice, large (by % of system) macro-filled refugium. So I won't argue the possibilities. But I think you would have to have a 90-gallon refugium for my 240 to get the same results. bob
jamesbuf May 21, 2009 May 21, 2009 Yes - Rob's tank looks very good. And my frag system has the lowest nitrates of any of my three systems; and it has the most wretched excuse for a skimmer - but a very nice, large (by % of system) macro-filled refugium. So I won't argue the possibilities. But I think you would have to have a 90-gallon refugium for my 240 to get the same results. bob So go to Scales and get a 120gal for maybe $100 and set yourself up a monster fuge.
zygote2k May 21, 2009 Author May 21, 2009 If you do your fuge correctly, it can be another tank to enjoy.
Larry Grenier May 21, 2009 May 21, 2009 (edited) I'd sure like to see a pic of the fuge. Just looked at the 40 in the dedicated tank forum. Good work. Edited May 21, 2009 by Larry Grenier
paul b May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009 I have been using an algae trough for about five years now in my 39 year old tank. After the first 10 years or so the tank started experiencing hair algae blooms. These HA cycles would come every year or two and last a couple of months. After I built this algae trough which is 6' long and sits at the surface of the tank, to the rear and slightly under the lights, I have not had a HA problem. Algae grows on the plastic screen in the trough and if it becomes a problem I roll up the screen to be removed and cleaned. I want algae in my tank as it is the best water purifier there is. The tank is and has always been healthy. Corals grow well and the fish live disease free forever, some longer than 18 years. Algae is present on every healthy reef in the sea and if it is not growing in your tank, it may not be as healthy as you believe it to be.
zygote2k May 22, 2009 Author May 22, 2009 Thanks for posting. Got any more pics or info on your 39 year old tank?
lanman May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009 That algae trough reminds me of my calfo overflow... which has a lot of aiptasia in it, but no algae. Maybe I should plant some! I have a great dark green algae that seems to stay pretty much put. Or I could hang one on the back. What kind of lighting do you need for an algae trough? Same as a refugium? Would spill-over light work?? bob
paul b May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009 ZYQOTE, I have a lot of pictures of it but I don't want to hijack the thread. This picture and a few others appeared in an aquarium magazine.
zygote2k May 22, 2009 Author May 22, 2009 ZYQOTE, I have a lot of pictures of it but I don't want to hijack the thread. This picture and a few others appeared in an aquarium magazine. Feel free to post anything that you may think is relevant. If you have algal filters- we'd like to see it. Details man, details!
paul b May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009 The trough uses spill light from the main MH lights. It is to the rear of the tank and it shields the back of the tank from light. The trough gets few from the return of the skimmer which is a 5' homemade venturi model on the back of the tank. I don't use a sump.
lanman May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009 My calfo overflow - AND several inches behind the tank get quite a bit of light from the rear-most pair of T5's (10 80W T5's over my 240). I think an algae trough would work great! Thanks! (you would have to read my multiple threads about attempts to lower my nitrates... including a remote deep sand bed, etc.) bob
paul b May 22, 2009 May 22, 2009 My algae trough is made from a 4X4" PVC fence post from Home depot. I sliced it so that it is about 2" deep. It is installed on a slight angle so the water which enters from the skimmer runs down a slight incline to where the trough just touches the water about 5' to the right. The plastic window screen in the trough is infused with cement. Algae grows much faster on cement than anything else. It has kept my tank almost algae free and 100% hair algae free so far. Mine is free to operate being it uses water from the skimmer and light from the main lighting.
zygote2k June 16, 2009 Author June 16, 2009 I've found that growing the right types of algae at the right time affects the performance of the 'fuge. In the beginning, Halymenia (dragons breath) will grow rapidly when the Nitrates are above 40 ppm. Below 20 ppm, its' growth slows noticeably. Chaetomorpha seems to grow even when the Nitrates fall to around 8ppm. I've just gotten an ATS and will be placing it so the surge empties into the DT. I plan on using the grow sheet exclusively for Halymenia.
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