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follow link to find more details on where to buy. http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/00-new-today.htm I got a factory refurbished D70s a few years ago and I'm over 5,000 + pics and zero issues.

Yes! IF it's a NEW RO/DI (never used) I would run a few gallons in bucket and dump it before runing into tank just to be safe and let it flush self so to speak (not running it in flush mode) but running in normal production mode.

In the outlet waste water line of any RO unit you need to match the GPD Flow Restrictor to GPD of membrane. The physical housing can fit almost any GPD size of membrane and pre-filters. However, as stated, if you don't use correct Flow Restrictor, you will push to much water through the membrane and not get benefits of it as intended. from aquafx website (image) what flow restrictor looks like

It's all about air bubble contact time. With the big skimmer Jason showed, there is a lot of time for bubble contact in that tall chamber. I would expect it to work fairly well given the size of it. However, the average person doesn't have the space to install a skimmer that size. Thus, you then have to find an efficient skimmer for the space you have to devote to running one. Next, comes Jason's topic - recirculate or not. I think DaveLin's post summed that up fairly well so IMO no need for me to say more on that. In the end there are so many variables that it's hard to say one way works better than another. Even it we take the excact same equipment but put it in different locations and under separate control, I bet we would get different results. Same thing goes for color of sps corals - I get a lot different color out of some corals that peeps I trade. Maybe it's equipment I use, maybe it's the trace elements I add, water quality, brand of RO/DI I use, bulbs, ballast (combo of the 2); you name it, results will differ to some extent. Heck, even the type/brand of foods, as well as oils on our skin, impacts skimmer performance. Probably the biggest thing one can do to improve success is to timely care for their system and equipment. By that I mean that if you properly maintain your equipment and timely clean your skimmer ever few days (at least that is my method) to get max benefit from it, then you increase your chance to be more successful because your livestock should benefit from the improved water quality. If you aren't going to maintain your equipment, then a fancy expensive skimmer will work no better than a cheap one in the end. I was willing to spend the money on a Deltec. I liked it's reputation, checked out its performance on a few systems in person, was excited to read about their customer service and their warranty; and you can't beat it for ease to clean the collection cup (simple 1/8 twist). While the becket injector skimmer I used in past worked well (aerofoamer), this time I didn't care to have a loud skimmer running in my house. It also had the old thumbscrews so a pain to clean. The T1000 floater, at least the one I used, was never consistent in it's production and required far to much tinkering to get it to work. Good luck & happy reefing!

What brand is it? What is warranty? What company will stand behind it if ballast fail? Sure you can find a good price on ebay, but will it last? you should do some price searches here: http://www.championlighting.com/home.php http://www.premiumaquatics.com/ http://www.marinedepot.com/ I've purchased from all 3 over the last 7 years and all 3 will support you as best they can if you have a problem.

you forgot the member only factory direct pricing on IceCap bulbs, ballasts, pendants ... prices only viewable in member area.

Thanks zygo for taking time to give a little details of your opinions on the benefits of a refugium. All helpful! Yup, its from Deltec, but here is a link to some information that Marvin, who runs Atlantis reef shop down in Richmond, and the Deltec USA service rep. posted on the D-D website. Some photos of Deltec factory and links to how a skimmer works. Hope its helpful to all those that want to learn more about how a skimmer works - at least from Deltec's point of view. http://www.theaquariumsolution.com/?q=node/470

Removing organic solids via skimming = better water quality = healthy heart of the system. I don't mean to pick specifially at your position zygo, but ... it appears then, based on your lack of response to my question of what your experience is with deltec, bubble king or other high end/high price skimmers, that you haven't personally used one of them. Zygo, you got a specs/ratings you can share with all of us on size of refugium someone needs to balance size of tank (like what size well stocked refugium for a 75 or 90, or 120 ...). In my opinion, I don't think a person can run a little 5 or 10 g refugium on a 120 without a skimmer and be successful. But maybe your experience can help us understand what you base your statement on that a well stocked fuge is all one needs. Many in the club use a small refugium in hopes that pods and other benefits make it back to the main system; but I only know of few members that may have large refugiums of 50g's or more, yet they still run a skimmer in addition to fuge. To each their own I guess. Late 2 Rise, Hope you take a bit more time to do some research on your own to learn what method you like, whether it's someting you will be able to maintain, and that it's easy to use and performs the task you want it to do = keep your water quality healthy. If you do go skimmer way, check out how easy (or not) it is to take collection cup section off to clean every few days. The easier it is to clean, the more you will do it and the better your skimmer will work.

you can find a review of a ATI bubblemaster here: http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?show...c=11873&hl= by ybenormal and others Good luck on your choice.

I agree with Steve. [wearing my personal opinion hat] My first tank (125g) had a turbofloater on it and it was the worst skimmer I ever used - in my opinion. Original pump stopped working efficient after 9 months. I had to add a air pump to get it to work better. Even adding oceanrunner pump didn't help. A skimmer is the heart of your system. Yet many people try to skimp on the expense of getting a good one. DO you think I could keep 27+ fish is a 215g tank (around 300g total system) if I had a cheap skimmer on my tank - heck no. Sure it cost me a lot to get a deltec 702, but since Jan '06 I have had nothing but success with it. I would like to know if zygo has ever used a deltec or bubble king and what he has base his opinion on. Sure you pay more, but you get what ya pay for. If you want some better opinions on skimmers, see the thread in aquaco forum: http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25533 You can see the results of what pics peeps posted up on each brand.

flowerseller had a few custom metal bars made to replace the glass brace on his tank. It's been fixed like that 5+ years now and holding fine. Think he use angle iron and also drained half water out to prevent any bowing; and made it a tight fith when he put them on so once full again they will support.

WAMAS MEMBERS, SEE the thread in the "Meeting News" section of the WAMAS Members Only forum for details on Factory Direct Pricing on lighting equipment from IceCap Inc. The special pricing is for WAMAS members only!

Good idea, can be done, I've just been lazy to do it. Somewhat simple if you get right parts. I have the above pictured float in my ro/di resivor so it's connected to my ro unit. After I do water change and move fresh ro/di over to salt mix 32g trash can, I just let it produce water till that float kicks off RO/DI unit. I could probably splice / T it off again to bucket and add some kind of float valve and the mechanical float to bucket. I think here on the bucket you use for dosing, you would want to use electric float swich since you would be constantly drawing water with dosing pump and using above pictured mechanical system would short cycle ro/di unit way to much. For me, I cut the expense for now of getting all the extra float switches. I've use the above pictured for 5 years on original system, and 2.5 years on new system and never had a problem with topoff adding to much water. As long as your RO/DI can produce, it hasn't failed me yet.

I have non-control version of reefdosingpump I got from Dhoch few years ago. http://www.reefdosingpumps.com/Pages/products.html maybe same company, it looks about same as this one http://www.innovativeaquatics.com/Pages/products.html other options: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod...cfm?pcatid=9965 if you got loot, here is the best doser (IMO): http://www.spectrapure.com/St_prec_p0.htm Then you can set rate you want to add kalk. This is how I control topoff - they recommend you use float switch up to ro/di so you don't short cycle the ro/di unit - to add life to membrane (short cycle = it runs a lot more and shorter periods). The float will let sump drop a inch and they your ro/di runs less, but for longer periods. The little float is like a safty valve, it shuts of ro feed water when high enough, then the pressure valve shuts off ro/di so no waste running when tank full. http://www.spectrapure.com/St_alc_p4.htm

Sorry to hear about your loss; after thanksgiving and system settles, we can hook up to get you corals. I agree with chips pt. of trying to determine what was cause of addidion of all the kalk. While I understand why a lot of peeps run all their topoff through the kalk unit, I don't do it that way. I separate the two. Topoff on own system that way if it fails, I don't get a big dose of kalk. I using dosing pump and 5g bucket for kalk addition. I get to control rate (ml/hr). Only down side is having to fill 5g bucket ever other day. But I'm down messing around daily anyway and always good to check tank. When out of town, I just swap 32g trash can I use for water change in place of bucket and all set for a week. Good luck on recovery!

good luck. hope your system large enough to survive spike

Update on raffle prizes coming soon! Come out and see the Wave Action Valve. One will be on display, a few will be available for purchase, and 1 will be available as a raffle prize.

FTS today Home of Robz's rimless nano he sold me [still have to get rock - put stuff from back refugium for now] Shot of tanks Black Tang Red Feathers Yellowhead Sleeper Goby

SKM#-A01 SK1#-A02 SK2#-A03 CHL%-A04 HET%-A05 HT2%-A06 CO2%-A07 STR#-A08 VHO$-B01 LT1$-B02 CLP#-B03 OM4#-B04 SS1#-B05 SS2#-B06 LT2$-B07 LH1$-B08 [controls outlet for new nano tank] LT3$-C01 FAN%-C02 NS1#-C03 [Tunze 6055] TN1#-C05 [Tunze 6100] TN2#-C06 [Tunze 6100] FN7%-C07 MON$-C08 ALM&-A09 If Time > 00:00 Then SKM ON If Time > 00:00 Then SK1 ON If Time > 00:00 Then SK2 ON If Time > 00:00 Then STR ON If Time > 00:00 Then CLP ON If Time > 00:00 Then OM4 ON If Time > 00:00 Then SS1 ON If Time > 00:00 Then SS2 ON If Time > 00:00 Then LH1 ON If Time > 00:00 Then FAN ON If Time > 12:15 Then LT1 ON If Time > 20:15 Then LT1 OFF If Time > 12:05 Then LT2 ON If Time > 20:05 Then LT2 OFF If Time > 12:10 Then LT3 ON If Time > 20:10 Then LT3 OFF If Temp < 78.5 Then CHL OFF If Temp > 79.4 Then CHL ON If Time > 08:15 Then VHO ON If Time > 22:00 Then VHO OFF If Time > 07:00 Then MON ON If Time > 08:35 Then MON OFF If Time > 21:25 Then MON ON If Time > 23:15 Then MON OFF [start of tunze program stuff] If Time > 00:00 Then TN1 ON If Time > 00:00 Then TN2 ON If Time > 00:00 Then NS1 ON If Time > 08:00 Then TN1 PF1 If Time > 08:00 Then TN2 PF2 If Time > 08:00 Then NS1 PF3 Pmp MODE sd for PF1 Pmp Int 030/100 for PF1 Pmp OSC 03/05/00 for PF1 Pmp MODE Sd for PF2 Pmp Int 030/100 for PF2 Pmp OSC 00/03/05 for PF2 Pmp MODE sD for PF3 Pmp Int 030/100 for PF3 Pmp OSC 05/05/00 for PF3 If Time > 22:00 Then TN1 PF4 If Time > 22:00 Then TN2 PF5 If Time > 22:00 Then NS1 PF6 Pmp MODE sd for PF4 Pmp Int 030/075 for PF4 Pmp OSC 03/05/00 for PF4 Pmp MODE Sd for PF5 Pmp Int 030/075 for PF5 Pmp OSC 00/03/05 for PF5 Pmp MODE sd for PF6 Pmp Int 030/075 for PF6 Pmp OSC 05/05/00 for PF6 If Temp < 75.0 Then HET ON If Temp > 75.5 Then HET OFF If Temp < 75.1 Then HT2 ON If Temp > 75.6 Then HT2 OFF If pHA1 > 06.68 Then CO2 ON If pHA1 < 06.65 Then CO2 OFF If pH > 08.40 Then ALM ON If pH < 07.75 Then ALM ON If Temp < 75.0 Then ALM ON If Temp > 82.0 Then ALM ON If Temp > 82.0 Then LT1 OFF If Temp > 82.0 Then LT2 OFF If Temp > 82.0 Then LT3 OFF If Power 000 Then ALM ON If Power 003 Then SKM ON If Power 004 Then SK1 ON If Power 004 Then SK2 ON At night I programmed the Tunzes to go to 75% instead of 100% for max power so I call them PF4 to PF6

SEE FAQ/FYI - pinned thread. ITS right there for all to see! or click here: http://www.wamas.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3664

Good to hear from you ya old pirate! Would love to catch up some time.

The Fall Meeting of the The Washington Area Marine Aquarist Society (WAMAS) will be on held Saturday December, 6 2008 from 1:00 - 5:00 p.m. at Kilmer Middle School near Tysons. Who: W.A.M.A.S. (Washington Area Marine Aquarium Society) When: December 6, 2008 (Saturday) Time: 1:00 P.M. - 5:00 P.M. (EST) Where: Kilmer Middle School 8100 Wolftrap Road Vienna, Virginia 22182 Cost: Members - Free / Non-members - $5.00 [Annual Membership = $20 - Individual; $35 - Family] Non-members may join at the door. To join or renew in advance, please visit http://wamas.org/join.php Special Guests: IceCap Inc. Chris Conti, President (will have a table display) BIO: Anthony Calfo Anthony Calfo was born in Hawaii and lives in Pennsylvania. He is a lifelong aquarist and an aquarium industry professional that has worked the better part of the last decade as a commercial coral farmer and wholesaler, producing cultured reef invertebrates in a greenhouse environment for the ornamental and zoological trade. Anthony has authored the reef aquarium books, "Book of Coral Propagation, Volume 1" (ReadingTrees.com) &

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The Winter Meeting of the The Washington Area Marine Aquarist Society (WAMAS) will be on held Saturday February 21, 2009, at Julius West Middle School, 651 Great Falls Rd, Rockville, 20850 (immediately outside Washington, DC) Our featured special guest speakers are Ned & Anna DeLoach. Along with a great talk, lots of frag swapping, and a great raffle, we will also be doing elections and other official business this is sure to be a meeting NOT to miss! For further information on WAMAS and the Winter Meeting, visit our web site http://www.wamas.org/ Who: W.A.M.A.S. (Washington Area Marine Aquarium Society) When: February 21, 2009 (Saturday) Time: 1:30 P.M. - 5:00 P.M. (EST) Where: Julius West Middle School 651 Great Falls Rd Rockville, 20850 Cost: Members - Free / Non-members - $5.00 [Annual Membership = $20 - Individual; $35 - Family] Non-members may join at the door. To join or renew in advance, please visit http://wamas.org/join.php Agenda 1:30 - 2:00 Sign in and Socializing 2:00 - 2:30 Club News - Elections 2:30 - 3:00 Break 3:00 - 4:30 Ned & Anna DeLoach 4:30 - 4:40 More socialization! 4:40 - 5:00 Raffle 5:00 Adjourn Special Guests: Ned & Anna DeLoach - have published nine identification guides for reef fishes and invertebrates around the world! Bio: The Fun Comes in Finding Them Amazing Fish and Critters from the Coral Triangle Authors and wildlife photographers Ned and Anna DeLoach recount their nine-year hunt for rare, weird and beautiful animals inhabiting the epicenter of marine biodiversity. Ned and Anna, along with partner Paul Humann, have published nine identification guides for reef fishes and invertebrates around the world. Their talk will feature stories and images of many of the their favorite discoveries from the rich waters of Indonesia and New Guinea, where they have been working on their latest book, a marine invertebrate guide to tropical Pacific. Ned was a friend and collaborator with Marjorie Bank, who in the 1980s helped the team with their first fish identification book to the Caribbean. Links to location: Mapquest Google