bues0022 September 26, 2018 September 26, 2018 At the moment it's a complete rumor (not corroborated through any press release that I can find), but the chatter that's reached my ears tonight is telling me the Indonesia coral ban is over! Has anyone else heard something similar tonight, or am I falling for a rumor spreading like a wildfire in California? With everyone hoping it's over soon, I can definitely imagine something getting out of hand quickly with this, so hopefully someone else with better sources than me can help confirm.
gioNVA September 26, 2018 September 26, 2018 I heard about it on facebook. It's not over yet. Supposedly the officials met to discuss their options. Not issuing any cites anytime soon.
bues0022 September 26, 2018 Author September 26, 2018 Supposedly the officials met to discuss their options. Not issuing any cites anytime soon. I starting thinking last night that the rumor was exaggerated based on the complete lack of any official statement.
gioNVA October 2, 2018 October 2, 2018 Well it looks like it's open again. I just saw a memo about it. Yeyyyy!
bues0022 October 2, 2018 Author October 2, 2018 Woot Woot!! Hopefully this means some better competition, coral prices come back down, and more options for corals too! Where did you see the memo?
gioNVA October 2, 2018 October 2, 2018 Someone posted it and translated it on one of the Facebook coral groups
johnnybv October 2, 2018 October 2, 2018 Well, I can tell you I have not heard this from any of my distributors or trans shippers.....
johnnybv October 2, 2018 October 2, 2018 OK so right after my last post I get this, so its a start. (Letter from our supplier, see letter below. Hopefully soon!) Dear Customer I was asked if this letter means we are able to import corals again. This letter means for domestic corals from Mataram and Bali only, but its not for exporting. The answer is not yet.
sen5241b October 3, 2018 October 3, 2018 (edited) Absolute best explanation yet of what's going on with the whole Coral ban and it doesn't seem to be over: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1849936048424123&id=254025534681857 Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Edited October 3, 2018 by sen5241b
Origami October 4, 2018 October 4, 2018 Absolute best explanation yet of what's going on with the whole Coral ban and it doesn't seem to be over: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1849936048424123&id=254025534681857 Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Very interesting. I'm struck by the "trafficking" (i.e. smuggling) within Indonesia that seems to have been at the heart of the KKP complaint, leading to its flexing its muscles and shutting down the issuance of health permits. Was this a way to move corals from one region to permit holders in another region and therefore to circumvent possible regional harvest quotas or exporter allotments? Is this a widespread problem in the industry there? If so, part of me doesn't object to the KKP bringing the hammer down until things are addressed given that they gave fair warningto the industry in 2016 - warning that may have been ignored. If it's not a widespread problem and, instead, it's a lot of political posturing for a presidential aspirant, then it's unfortunate that this is the way it's going down as I'm sure it's hurting plenty of everyday people who eek out a living through this industry. BTW, thanks for posting this.
madweazl October 4, 2018 October 4, 2018 I worry the only reason they're talking about restarting is for generating revenue for earthquake recovery.
sen5241b October 4, 2018 October 4, 2018 I does seem like the greater issue of sustainability is not given priority as it should. If they decided against any wild harvesting I would not blame them. In the last few years a lot of coral farms have popped in Indonesia. Why would you ban the farms from exporting? The risk is they could kill those businesses.
malacoda October 4, 2018 October 4, 2018 (edited) Sounds like, as of two days ago, the overall ban has indeed been lifted. It seems that what has not yet been confirmed or clarified is how soon exports will be allowed to resume: https://reefbuilders.com/2018/10/03/indonesian-corals/ Edited October 4, 2018 by malacoda
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