monkiboy August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 YOu can do all of these things and you might still have the problem. It looks as if these were all freshly cut frags and small ones at that. Tiny frags often do poorly. Buy bigger frags of corals that aren't difficult to start with. rob, the photos he shared are after he broke up the frags/mini-colonies up and looks like he glued them to ceramic plugs but is hard to tell in the photo. and only because it was mentioned one or two were acquired from ERC/myself i want to ensure you that i never sell freshly cut frags. all are encrusted and at least 1" if not mini-colony size. the other pieces i cannot speak about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 rob, the photos he shared are after he broke up the frags/mini-colonies up and looks like he glued them to ceramic plugs but is hard to tell in the photo. and only because it was mentioned one or two were acquired from ERC/myself i want to ensure you that i never sell freshly cut frags. all are encrusted and at least 1" if not mini-colony size. the other pieces i cannot speak about. I am not blaming you at all. Just wanted to state that the frag was taken care of before I got it. At work now will post later rest of info. Marco it was a beautiful piece before I got it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkiboy August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I am not blaming you at all. Just wanted to state that the frag was taken care of before I got it. At work now will post later rest of info. Marco it was a beautiful piece before I got it. i did not take it as such sir. no worries but did want to clarify on rob's point. thanks for the note, regardless. you have some solid advice so far in this thread so i don't have too much to add. reading through your other posts it seems like there has been some variability sufficient to cause an event like you're experiencing. in the end with acropora, stability is key - from your lighting to flow to critical parameters. and even when all those are right, albeit rarely, you'll have an RTN or STN event that is what seems impossible to track down. keep your head up, don't make any changes too quickly if you're changing something, ensure you're providing coral all it needs in stable proper chemistry and light, and be diligent. things will come around. if you have any questions in particular about my procedures just shoot me a PM and i'll be glad to help sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 keep your head up, don't make any changes too quickly if you're changing something, ensure you're providing coral all it needs in stable proper chemistry and light, and be diligent. things will come around. +1 Also..reading back..it looks like the OP dosed an X amount every other day. How much are you adding? You usually want to dose in small amounts. Depending on how much of a swing you got from your dose, that could be the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwweber August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Have you changed your bulbs lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 Bulbs 8 months old. Both PC and halides. Dose 2 tsps of the seachem alkalinity. I do think this is one of my problems That is the dosing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Bulbs 8 months old. Both PC and halides. Dose 2 tsps of the seachem alkalinity. I do think this is one of my problems That is the dosing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Richard, read back to my post regarding dosing, just opinion, but I think your case is alk swings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaguy August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Alk is brutal. I just lost about 10 mini colonies to a alk swing that was on a doser. No clue how it happened but it did. I was able to salvage some frags from a few. Keep a close eye on alk. I'm watching mine daily trying to figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwweber August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 how many gallons of water you have in your system? Ever since i increased my amount of water I have far less problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 Full tank shot and 1/2 tank shots Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 (edited) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 26, 2014 by morgan175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 (edited) How old are your bulbs? They are 8 months old How long is your photoperiod? Atinic 11 on. Halides 12. On 7 off. Atinic 8 off What is the temperature range the tank runs at? 77.6 to 78.9 How long have you had the frags? 2 months Is your coralline algae staying purple or is it also turning white? The algae is purple Post up a full tank shot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 26, 2014 by morgan175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 That's a pretty hot temp to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 Richard, read back to my post regarding dosing, just opinion, but I think your case is alk swings. My alk drops about .5 a day and calcium about 10. This is according to the tests I run. May be some human error. When on vacation for 8 days came home to alk from 9 to 7.2. Calcium was 440 when I left down to 400. May contain human error. I have been trying to keep calcium at 440 and all at 9. Chasing the number. What do you think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 That's a pretty hot temp to run Fixed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 How long did you track those consumption rates? Do you ever test again after you dose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 Tracked everyday for a month. No I did not check after I dosed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 My alk drops about .5 a day and calcium about 10. This is according to the tests I run. May be some human error. When on vacation for 8 days came home to alk from 9 to 7.2. Calcium was 440 when I left down to 400. May contain human error. I have been trying to keep calcium at 440 and all at 9. Chasing the number. What do you think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So you said earlier you dosed every other day. That means you were raising your Alk 1 dkh each dose? That's not a huge swing. I've done that w/ no issues. There goes that theory assuming no human error in calculating your dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmerek2 August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 So you said earlier you dosed every other day. That means you were raising your Alk 1 dkh each dose? That's not a huge swing. I've done that w/ no issues. There goes that theory assuming no human error in calculating your dose. He said he didn't test immediately after. 1dkh in a matter of 5 min vs 1dkh in 20 hours could be a problem. Another thing is imagine dumping food coloring in a tank. It swirls around in huge concentrations until finally mixed, slamming into SPS in giant clouds shocking them. This is why I'm such a fan of the drip dosers. Super slow and steady wins the race here with sps. My alk number I have chased is now rock steady even on while on vacation and the results are awesome. I do think that the other theory's are very valid. I run my tank at 79 in summer no problem mon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 He said he didn't test immediately after. 1dkh in a matter of 5 min vs 1dkh in 20 hours could be a problem. Another thing is imagine dumping food coloring in a tank. It swirls around in huge concentrations until finally mixed, slamming into SPS in giant clouds shocking them. This is why I'm such a fan of the drip dosers. Super slow and steady wins the race here with sps. My alk number I have chased is now rock steady even on while on vacation and the results are awesome. I do think that the other theory's are very valid. I run my tank at 79 in summer no problem mon! When I went through raising my Alk to my desired level before starting my doser to maintain, I did 1 dkh in a matter of 1 second (1 dump) using baking soda. I don't think 1 dkh is a problem based on my own experience only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 27, 2014 Author Share August 27, 2014 Ok. As for now I have turned skimmer off and I am waiting till Friday for fish. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan175 August 27, 2014 Author Share August 27, 2014 Ok. As for now I have turned skimmer off and I am waiting till Friday for fish. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 how many gallons of water you have in your system? Ever since i increased my amount of water I have far less problems. connect it to the swimming pool and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 When I went through raising my Alk to my desired level before starting my doser to maintain, I did 1 dkh in a matter of 1 second (1 dump) using baking soda. I don't think 1 dkh is a problem based on my own experience only. That would be quite a shock to many of the more delicate SPS. In a given week, alkalinity should only fluctuate 1/3 of a dkh in a "stable" system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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