fphipps July 21, 2014 Share July 21, 2014 so I have a 40 breeder tank in my room that I am making into a frag tank. I had originally planned to do HOB skimmer and filters and such. I ran into the issue of surface skimming today. So I decided I could put a 20 long sump in the bottom and still use my hob skimmer some how. Now I need to figure out how to get my overflow quieter than my display. I have pipe stands in my display as it is drilled. For the 40 breeder, I have a CPR overflow that I used on my 75 gallon previously. Any ideas of build threads on how to make it super quiet, it is in my bedroom where I need to sleep every night. Thanks! Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 July 21, 2014 Share July 21, 2014 (edited) eheim 1260 http://www.marinedepot.com/Eheim_Universal_Hobby_Pump_Up_to_500_Gallons_Per_Hour_Submersible_Aquarium_Pumps-Eheim-EH1046-FIWPSBUF-EH1260-vi.html with a bean animal: https://www.flickr.com/photos/60938236@N07/8028254554/in/photostream/ can't get it embed Edited July 21, 2014 by BowieReefer84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k July 21, 2014 Share July 21, 2014 you need a bubble trap in the sump and it'll cut down 90% of the noise no matter how you configure it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crob5965 July 21, 2014 Share July 21, 2014 I am yet to confirm the Bean animal, as my tank is not set up, but from the 100's of post's I have read, it is supposed to be dead silent and impossible to fail. I will be running a bean animal on my new tank as it seems like the best option for safe and silent overflow systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 July 22, 2014 Share July 22, 2014 You don't need a bubble trap with the bean animal since there are none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 2 RISE July 22, 2014 Share July 22, 2014 (edited) BowieReefer hit the nail on the head. I run my system with a BeanAnimal overflow and now I'm never going back. It's brilliant! On top of that, no micro bubbles in the sump= SO much less salt creep. My set up here: http://wamas.org/forums/topic/57917-sam-and-his-moms-57g-rimless/ Explenation of BeanAnimal overflow: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1310585 Note, I just have two pipes. IMO you don't need three, and you don't need to fiddle with airline if you adjust flow through that pipe to be slow enough. If you'd like to swing by and check out my set up sometime, let me know. Edited July 22, 2014 by L8 2 RISE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrench July 23, 2014 Share July 23, 2014 Another vote for the BeanAnimal overflow. I've run that setup for 4 years with no floods and no noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 July 23, 2014 Share July 23, 2014 Also, put a lot of unions in your setup. At the very least one on the gate valve drain for servicing/cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahorseconservancy September 7, 2014 Share September 7, 2014 what is a bean animal? i looked up images dont really get it , sort of looks like what im doing on my tank? what am i missing how does it work? never heard of it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt September 7, 2014 Share September 7, 2014 Bean Animal - one siphon drain, one non-siphon drain with absolutely minimal overflow, and one emergency drain capable of handling it all but should be air only unless your siphon drain gets clogged Herbie - predates Bean Animal. Uses only the siphon drain, and non-siphon drain with minimal overflow. The non-siphon drain is also the emergency drain and should be able to handle all system overflow if the siphon drain gets clogged For how to set these up use Google. There are some dedicated websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahorseconservancy September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 by siphon drain you mean water to water? so i have 3 holes and an over flow do you want 2 to go down into trhe water one to be short of the water,? ok but why have the short one? just asking ill do what you say of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 by siphon drain you mean water to water? so i have 3 holes and an over flow do you want 2 to go down into trhe water one to be short of the water,? ok but why have the short one? just asking ill do what you say of course http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1310585 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 (edited) by siphon drain you mean water to water? so i have 3 holes and an over flow do you want 2 to go down into trhe water one to be short of the water,? ok but why have the short one? just asking ill do what you say of course Here is a video of what everyone means by "Bean Animal." Ignore the rodi line, as I had just filled up the tank... https://www.flickr.com/photos/60938236@N07/8028254554/ Picture of overflow box (3 pipes of varying heights) 20120904_210826 by mteske1, on Flickr Sump shot 20120904_210221 by mteske1, on Flickr The shortest drain will be a full siphon with the gate valve. The next one will take just a VERY small amount of water. The third should not be wet, and is simply a backup if the others get clogged as a safety factor. Edited September 9, 2014 by BowieReefer84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahorseconservancy September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 got it thanks, i would kill myself before agreeing to a siphon, how many times have i found baby 2 month old seahorses on the floor? 3 x with reduced waterflow disasters please look at my photo of the end of the tank the pipes will go into and under the water and 3 valves i will tune it so the collection water will be 6 inches deep then water to water , will it work ? i don't know yet this is the first time i have tried it but water to water does not have to be siphon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 Draining water from a display to water in a sump does not mean siphon. Siphon means no air is in the line and so water is sucked down silently. Siphon = silent. Dig deeper on bean animal drain....we're not talking about siphoning your whole display....just the volume above the siphon tube opening in an overflow area like an overflow box. Also see http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnevo September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 +1 bean animal has the most safety then any other overflow. You control how much water could potentially drain by the height of the standpipes. I think matt's definition of siphon is lacking but there's no more risk here than a durso or herbie style overflow with what you've insinuated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahorseconservancy September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 ok got it, just waking up at night hearing water and finding 2 months work on the floor scares you mental, i built it, want clean water, white sand perfect, thanks you guys helped me with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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