Jan February 16, 2013 February 16, 2013 (edited) Let me know what you use. I'm looking for a water filter system for my kitchen faucet. Something that will filter out chloramine and sediment. Nothing like the 5 stage I use to make RO/DI water. I need something with decent flow that I can turn on and off when I need it. Edited February 17, 2013 by Jans Natural Reef Foods
smallreef February 16, 2013 February 16, 2013 I've seen the pur one that clicks on...the only problem was the faucet wasn't very sturdy,.it was kind of a builder basic and the neck broke from to much weight and movement....
Tracy G February 16, 2013 February 16, 2013 They have a few you can install under the sink as well so all of the water from that faucet is filtered. Easy to change as well.
Piper February 16, 2013 February 16, 2013 Might seem a little excessive, but we have a whole house water filter in addition to a four stage on the kitchen drinking water tap.
Jan February 16, 2013 Author February 16, 2013 Not ready to make the plung for a whole house filtration system just yet. I will look at the 2 stage under the counter. The ones that attach to the faucet cause the water to come out too slow. Thanks, everyone.
Piper February 16, 2013 February 16, 2013 Not ready to make the plung for a whole house filtration system just yet. I will look at the 2 stage under the counter. The ones that attach to the faucet cause the water to come out too slow. Thanks, everyone. Right, whatever you do, that bladder tank is essential to making it usable. I have one on the RO/DI for the aquarium as well. The one thing to be aware of is adding your minerals back in. Shake a little salt in every glass, preferably good stuff. Reef crystals :D
zygote2k February 16, 2013 February 16, 2013 get the bladder tank option for your r/o and a faucet for the sink. still use the same r/o that you use for fish and tasty water for you.
AlanM February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 Bladder tank and a Tee off the RO line just before it reaches the DI stage is a great idea. It's what I did and the water is really tasty. Still pretty low TDS at only 4. If it's really far from your sink you could do something like a generic 10" filter housing with a high quality carbon filter cartridge in it and use a couple of Tee's to make a bypass loop through the filter to your 3/8" compression fittings for the cold supply line so you can do two valves to run filtered water out the cold when you need it and turn them back to be back to regular water.
zygote2k February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 DI water tastes better. Cartridges are cheaper than your cancer treatment from drinking tap water.
smallreef February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 I thought you shouldn't drink rodi for to long or your liver and kidneys would suffer from the lack of missing minerals?
SaltLife February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 "Drinking distilled water will draw out salts and minerals from your body. You won't be dehydrated but you will be malnourished. Do not drink only distilled if you don't have too. Make sure you're replenishing your body if you must drink distilled. Adding salt and electrolyte tablets WILL reduce the draw on your body, but won't make you anymore hydrated."
Steve175 February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 "Drinking distilled water will draw out salts and minerals from your body. You won't be dehydrated but you will be malnourished. Do not drink only distilled if you don't have too. Make sure you're replenishing your body if you must drink distilled. Adding salt and electrolyte tablets WILL reduce the draw on your body, but won't make you anymore hydrated." As a doc, I feel compelled to call BS for the last 2 replys. True, perhaps, if you drank RODI water and NOTHING else. Otherwise, no.
Jan February 17, 2013 Author February 17, 2013 I don't want it for drinking. I have a filter on my fridge for drinking water. I want it for cleaning, rinsing and cooking.
Jan February 17, 2013 Author February 17, 2013 (edited) I thought the minerals we get from drinking water are inorganic and our bodies don't really use them. I believe the organic minerals we use and need come from the foods we eat. I could be wrong. I'm not a big believer of taking additional electrolytes unless we really need them. Kids these days drink Gatorade and powerade like water and that's not good. Too many power drinks like these can lead to serious electrolyte imbalances; Hypernatremia Hypernatremia is a condition caused by too much sodium in the body. The more sodium consumed by the body, the more water is lost. Excessive salt intake can lead to dehydration, lethargy and weakness. Since sodium levels affect nerve impulses, muscle twitching is also a symptom of hypernatremia. Hyperkalemia Potassium is involved in neuromuscular and cardiac functions. Too much potassium in the body can cause a condition known as hyperkalemia. Symptoms of hyperkalemia include fatigue, lethargy, weakness and abdominal cramps. In severe cases, hyperkalemia can slow down the heart and even lead to cardiac arrest. Hypermagnesemia Excessive levels of magnesium in the body is called hypermagnesemia. Since magnesium is responsible for muscle function and the production of energy, too much magnesium results in decreased respiration, muscle weakness and lethargy. Cardiac conditions, including cardiac arrest, are also possible. Hypercalcemia Calcium is involved in the transmission of nerve impulses, the contraction of muscles and the formation of bones. Too much calcium, hypercalcemia, can cause lethargy, fatigue, nausea, constipation and hypertension as well as bone pain. Too much calcium also reduces the amount of phosphorous, which can result in hypertension and confusion. Hyperphosphatemia Phosphorous is involved in the production of energy. However, high levels of phosphorous results in lethargy, fatigue and seizures. Too much phosphorous also reduces the amount of calcium, which can cause tremors, cramps, muscle spasms, convulsions and bone or joint pain. Acidosis The ratio of acids and bases in the body is referred to as a pH level. This level is maintained by bicarbonate and chloride. Decreased levels of pH is a condition called acidosis. Acidosis is caused by high levels of chloride and can result in cellular damage and even death. Too much chloride is also associated with weakness, nausea and headaches. So unless you are an Athlete and workout everyday and sweat profusely, you should not take in too many electrolytes from power drinks. Water is good enough. "Drinking distilled water will draw out salts and minerals from your body. You won't be dehydrated but you will be malnourished. Do not drink only distilled if you don't have too. Make sure you're replenishing your body if you must drink distilled. Adding salt and electrolyte tablets WILL reduce the draw on your body, but won't make you anymore hydrated." Edited February 17, 2013 by Jans Natural Reef Foods
Origami February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 As a doc, I feel compelled to call BS for the last 2 replys. True, perhaps, if you drank RODI water and NOTHING else. Otherwise, no. RO/DI tastes bad to me anyway. It may be the lack of some gasses. (Sent from my phone)
countryboy February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 I think the under the sink cartridge set up will do fine for what you want. I have a couple of friends with them and they work great, they are also relatively pretty cheap to put in.
Piper February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 If you know anyone into boating, it's normal to take your filtered/desalinated water and add a tablespoon of seawater back. You should add a dash of salt to any glass of water. My wife is a nutritionist and takes this very seriously. Our shaker salt is some really high end Himalayan mineral salt that's supposedly is the closest match to what our bodies need to process water. Every glass of RO water you drink without adding back minerals leeches your body's reserves, your bones. But it's no big deal to just keep some good salt nearby and shake a few dashes in each glass. Far better than the alternative. Inadequately filtered water is ripe with poisons. Whole house filter is a big deal as well. Your skin is your biggest organ, and it's a sponge with a blood barrier on the other side. It's a big deal, and living in the Matrix, we don't give it much thought until someone that cares about us opens our eyes to how unhealthy the world has become. Doing these things doesn't affect your lifestyle at all. It's a very, very important investment. I had to bypass my whole house filter for a few days last fall when I changed out the prefilter and ran out of gaskets, had to order more. We have really decent municipal water, but you could smell the chlorine and feel the difference after first shower. Nasty. Strongly recommend Pelican whole house filters. Very cost effective.
Jan February 17, 2013 Author February 17, 2013 (edited) I use salt sparingly. when I do use it I use pink himalayan salt, kosher salt, sea salt and rarely table salt. They add a nice flavor to my cooking. If I'm brining I use kosher salt. I don't think we need as much salt as we use here in the US. It isn't very good for you in the long run. Everything in moderation. My personal opinion. Sounds like maybe an over simplifaction of the the very complex "sodium potassium pump". We do need a certain amount of salt for blood flow and blood pressure regulation and cellular function in our body, but not as much as we get here in the US. There are also exceptions for health and medical reasons why certain people should NOT use salt or they should use it sparingly; folks over 51 years of age, certain ethnic groups, and people with hypertension, diabetes, or chronic kidney disease (regardless of age). It isn't as simple as everyone should add salt to water. Look up sodium potassium pump to understand how and why. It's complicated and we'd go wayyyy off topic if I got into it. Maybe in other countries, 3rd world and underdeveloped countries they need to add salt to drinking water. Here, in the US I think we're ok. Docs feel free to chime in. If you know anyone into boating, it's normal to take your filtered/desalinated water and add a tablespoon of seawater back. You should add a dash of salt to any glass of water. My wife is a nutritionist and takes this very seriously. Our shaker salt is some really high end Himalayan mineral salt that's supposedly is the closest match to what our bodies need to process water. Every glass of RO water you drink without adding back minerals leeches your body's reserves, your bones. But it's no big deal to just keep some good salt nearby and shake a few dashes in each glass. Far better than the alternative. Inadequately filtered water is ripe with poisons. Whole house filter is a big deal as well. Your skin is your biggest organ, and it's a sponge with a blood barrier on the other side. It's a big deal, and living in the Matrix, we don't give it much thought until someone that cares about us opens our eyes to how unhealthy the world has become. Doing these things doesn't affect your lifestyle at all. It's a very, very important investment. I had to bypass my whole house filter for a few days last fall when I changed out the prefilter and ran out of gaskets, had to order more. We have really decent municipal water, but you could smell the chlorine and feel the difference after first shower. Nasty. Strongly recommend Pelican whole house filters. Very cost effective. Edited February 17, 2013 by Jans Natural Reef Foods
Piper February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 (edited) Per my nutritionist wife, its not an issue of the sodium level in your body. You need to have sodium in the water or it leeches your tissues. I guess its a matter of it coming from the wrong place in your body, bones instead of fat cells for instance. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2 Edited February 17, 2013 by Piper
Jan February 17, 2013 Author February 17, 2013 I'm not understanding you. How does it leach our tissue? What leaches our tissue? What leaches from our tissue? We get enough sodium from the foods we eat. There is no need to add sodium to water here in the US. http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/chemicals/sodium.pdf
Piper February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 Apparently there are certain essential minerals our bodies don't store in excess, only have what we need, and our bodies require these minerals be present in our water to properly process. So the body leeches minerals we need from our tissues to process ultra filtered water and then they are expelled with urine, not returned to our tissues. It's not salt, but some other essential and trace minerals that we simply don't hang onto. This is the most I could understand from just asking the wife before my eyes crossed.
Jan February 17, 2013 Author February 17, 2013 (edited) Yep, our bodies do not store potassium, iodine, calcium and magnesium which are essential minerals and found in salt. Himalayan and Sea salt have more minerals, but the sodium content is still the same in all salt. You can get the same results from eating the right foods. The sodium in excess isn't good. Our organs need sodium and sugar to function properly. Sodium is essential to extracellular fluid. It functions in the control of water distribution, fluid balance, and osmotic pressure of body fluids. Maybe this is what she's talking about? The brain in particular needs sugar. Everything needs to be "balanced" to maintain "homeostasis". I'm still not convinced that here, in the US, we need to add salt to water; even if it is RO/DI water. Apparently there are certain essential minerals our bodies don't store in excess, only have what we need, and our bodies require these minerals be present in our water to properly process. So the body leeches minerals we need from our tissues to process ultra filtered water and then they are expelled with urine, not returned to our tissues. It's not salt, but some other essential and trace minerals that we simply don't hang onto. This is the most I could understand from just asking the wife before my eyes crossed. Edited February 17, 2013 by Jans Natural Reef Foods
zygote2k February 17, 2013 February 17, 2013 sodium is an electrolyte and is needed by the body for proper function. if you eat an American diet, you'll get plenty of sodium without the need to add it.
Jan February 17, 2013 Author February 17, 2013 (edited) Yea, as a retired senior Emergency Medical Instructor and EMT-P for many years teaching for the FDNY I have to know a little about this stuff. Very little compared to Doctors and others with many years of education. I know a little more than the lay person. Enough to stand my ground and stay my opinion that we don't need salt in RO/DI water . You sound like her, apparently preaching to the choir. Edited February 17, 2013 by Jans Natural Reef Foods
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