Blue Porites Rapid Tissue Loss right now!

[DuffyGeos]

I think that is what it is called, the coral was moved a couple days ago when the Nem got shreaded, and I noticed some white streamer coming off of it yesterday. Now it has it in about 4 places.

 

What do I do? 16g nano

 

Here are parameters from yesterday:

 

Testing:

 

ALK  10.25

Mag  1140

Cal    440

Sal    1.026

Temp 76.8

NO3     0

PH     8.2

PO4     0

Edited June 15, 2014 by DuffyGeos

[DuffyGeos]

I guess it is called Rapid Tissue Necrosis

[epleeds]

First off is it near anything that could be stinging it? Also, the ALK seems high. I run mine at 8. Also did you run any carbon after the nem got shredded?

[Orion]

You can try cutting a good piece of it off and hope it survives

[DuffyGeos]

I am running carbon right now. I will test the ALK again.

 

Does not look like it it near anything, but it is in a new position since Mon.

[DuffyGeos]

You can try cutting a good piece of it off and hope it survives

OK, I will look at that as an option, I was thinking that might be ok.

 

Anything I could dip it in?

[epleeds]

If its already stressed, dipping might make it worse. Test ALK and maybe it just doesn't like the new spor

[DuffyGeos]

Tried to use my Hanna ALK Checker and I am out of reagent, got a full syringe yesterday and know I bought an extra bottle, but this might be the extra!

 

API test says between 8-9

[DuffyGeos]

If its already stressed, dipping might make it worse. Test ALK and maybe it just doesn't like the new spor

Eric,

 

It is 4" away from the old spot at the same height in the tank. I did turn it from flat where most of the coral was getting light, to on its side, where some of the coral is not getting the light. Would that cause it?

[DuffyGeos]

Does this spread to other corals?   The side that is losing it is the same side that was getting the most light in its old position.

 

Oh, by the way Happy Father's Day Eric, and to all the other dad's.

[DuffyGeos]

I now have a snail on it and it is eating it. Is this ok?  should I add more snails?

[Origami]

RTN can take a coral out in a few hours to a few days. You may want to take several frags now is you can.

[DuffyGeos]

Ok, that sounds like the way to go.

 

Do I throw out the one that is dying, or do I leave that in the tank?

 

Does this spread to other corals?

[DuffyGeos]

Here is a picture, it is the top section.

 

[DuffyGeos]

Ok, so I think I am going to frag it. should I dip it in ReVive coral cleaner, or Coral RX Pro?

[howaboutme]

I wouldn't dip it. I think the condition is caused by parameter changes and not foreign substances like bugs, etc that you would use the dip for. The dip will just further stress it.

[DuffyGeos]

It says on both of them to dip after fragging. Neither one has iodine in it.

[DuffyGeos]

Porites has been fragged. Not sure what to do with the half that was going through RTN, so I tossed it. Better to get rid of one then to have a problem with others. Still have a silver dollar size piece.

[howaboutme]

It says on both of them to dip after fragging. Neither one has iodine in it.

I disagree personally but I don't have tons of experience. They are selling a product after all.... So using it every chance you get is a plus for them.

 

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[DuffyGeos]

I disagree personally but I don't have tons of experience. They are selling a product after all.... So using it every chance you get is a plus for them.

 

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Makes sense. I am going to post a pic of my other hobby tonight for you .

 

Jack- thanks for your help.  I should be outside right now for Father's Day!!!! Not dealing with a sick coral.

[gmerek2]

I hope it's different for other people on here but by the time my corals show RTN it's too late the whole coral is sick and will die. I have tried fragging, moving and even leaving them alone with no luck. I think alk swings caused my problems and could be yours also. Just got a doser.

[DuffyGeos]

I hope it's different for other people on here but by the time my corals show RTN it's too late the whole coral is sick and will die. I have tried fragging, moving and even leaving them alone with no luck. I think alk swings caused my problems and could be yours also. Just got a doser.

I noticed it last night on one tip. By this morning there were 4 spots that were showing it. I watched it over a couple hours and each spot got larger. Luckily it was all on one side, so I ended up cutting it in half and tossed the side that was losing tissue. So far it looks good and no mucus coming off the cut.

 

We will see how it goes.

[davelin315]

I think TreeSprite or Jan had some success in the past by coating the necrotic tissue with superglue, but can't remember. RTN can be caused by many factors, many of which are unknown...

 

Best bet is to frag as far from the necrotic area as possible. Dipping can also be a good idea as it can remove or reduce some potential issues that caused the RTN to begin with.

[Origami]

I think TreeSprite or Jan had some success in the past by coating the necrotic tissue with superglue, but can't remember. RTN can be caused by many factors, many of which are unknown...

 

Best bet is to frag as far from the necrotic area as possible. Dipping can also be a good idea as it can remove or reduce some potential issues that caused the RTN to begin with.

I think that it was Jan who had some luck with the superglue approach to either RTN or STN. I've tried it with mixed success.

 

As you mention, dipping can help by killing off bacteria or protozoans that may be causing the necrotic reaction. Hopefully fragging well away from the  "line of death," the coral will have a good chance at recovering.

[DuffyGeos]

I think TreeSprite or Jan had some success in the past by coating the necrotic tissue with superglue, but can't remember. RTN can be caused by many factors, many of which are unknown...

Best bet is to frag as far from the necrotic area as possible. Dipping can also be a good idea as it can remove or reduce some potential issues that caused the RTN to begin with.

I think that it was Jan who had some luck with the superglue approach to either RTN or STN. I've tried it with mixed success.

 

As you mention, dipping can help by killing off bacteria or protozoans that may be causing the necrotic reaction. Hopefully fragging well away from the  "line of death," the coral will have a good chance at recovering.

Thanks for the input guys. I tried to take off some of the healthy coral along with the RTN area. Today it looks good ( cross my fingers) no mucus and no other bad signs. Should I dip in ReVive or Coral RX Pro? Maybe wait a day or so, or do it tonight?

 

Thanks