Happyfeet March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 My Yellow Belly Blue Hippo Tang has spots all over him! They must of developed while I was at work. Ive set up a QT tank and bringing the temp up on it. I've never done a Hypo Salinity Treatment before, any tips? Going to try and drop the salinity and hold it around 1.020 for 4 weeks after the last spot goes away.
Coral Hind March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 You will have to drop it lower then that. Here is a good article. http://www.fishchannel.com/fish-health/saltwater-conditions/marine-ich.aspx I normally don't do hypos but instead do API Super Ich Cure in a q-tank. I like this method because it also cures secondary bacterial infections.
zygote2k March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 do your fish a favor and just keep him in the DT. The stress of catching it and transferring it to another tank will make the ick worse. If the fish is healthy, he'll survive the ick. do you think when fish are sick in the ocean, they quickly swim up to river mouth and bathe in the freshwater...
Happyfeet March 4, 2010 Author March 4, 2010 Well I was more worried about the Ick getting to the other fish. If it's already in them I guess I'll put him back in, I just wanted to limit the damage. Also I want to add more fish later on and from what I understand the Ick will stay in the system if allowed to reproduce right?
Incredible Corals March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 Well I was more worried about the Ick getting to the other fish. If it's already in them I guess I'll put him back in, I just wanted to limit the damage. Also I want to add more fish later on and from what I understand the Ick will stay in the system if allowed to reproduce right? Yes. The only 100% way to beat the ich is to remove all the fish and keep our DT fishless for 8-10 weeks. While your fish are in the QT I would treat with copper for 4-5 weeks and then 4-5 weeks with no meds. Any new fish should go into your QT for 4 weeks with copper. Also, anything "wet" needs to be in a QT before entering your DT, including; corals, inverts, rocks, etc. If you don't want to do the above then you can just keep feeding the fish well and hope it builds an immunity to the ich. Any new fish you add to your tank has a good chance of picking up the ich because the stress of the new environment. Ich is a huge pain but there are sure ways of killing the ich and keeping it out of your tank and that is by not allowing it to be introduced into your DT when removed. I also feel your pain. I'm on week 3 :(
Happyfeet March 4, 2010 Author March 4, 2010 I know for a fact I can't catch my Yellow Watchman Goby, that little sucker moves at Mach III
Incredible Corals March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 Well I was more worried about the Ick getting to the other fish. If it's already in them I guess I'll put him back in, I just wanted to limit the damage. Also I want to add more fish later on and from what I understand the Ick will stay in the system if allowed to reproduce right? Removing just one fish is pointless. Once you treat the one fish and put it back in, it will pick the ich up again. The other fish probably have it but they are able to keep it suppressed (in the gills).
Incredible Corals March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 I know for a fact I can't catch my Yellow Watchman Goby, that little sucker moves at Mach III I have a fish trap you can borrow but it still takes a lot of patience.
hlem March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 treat it, dont leave it alone, if you leave it alone and things dont get less stressful in the tank, it'll only get worse. i lost 20+ fish cause i left them alone to get better...
treesprite March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 There was ich on my gramma and my angel several months ago, but it went away and I did not treat them aside from adding a cleaner shrimp. A shrimp only eats what is on the outside of the fish body, but even if it doesn't cure a fish and the fish still dies, it helps the tank because 1. the parasites that are eaten don't reproduce and don't infect additional fish, and 2. the risk of secondary bacterial infection is reduced, because with the physical irritation on the skin gone, the fish don't scratch against rocks.
L8 2 RISE March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 LEAVE THE FISH IN THE TANK! If you can't keep fish in a stress free enough environment with a good, healthy feeding regiment, that they can't easily get through ick on their own, you should not be keeping them. (thats not directed at you, just in general). Sure, chances are you'll see ick pop up from time to time, but if the fish is as healthy as it should be in your care, you shouldn't have to bat an eye. Just feed well, soak food in vitamins/ garlic, and you'll be fine.
jrok March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 In the past I have chopped fresh garlic(really fine) and fed to my fish and it seemed to work well.
davelin315 March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 would corals and inverts be able to handle the hypo treatment? No, I doubt it very much. It's designed to kill invertebrates which cannot adapt as well as fish.
Coral Hind March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 would corals and inverts be able to handle the hypo treatment? No, the hypo is for the fish only. Read the article I posted above for more info.
Happyfeet March 4, 2010 Author March 4, 2010 (edited) You will have to drop it lower then that. Here is a good article. http://www.fishchannel.com/fish-health/saltwater-conditions/marine-ich.aspx I normally don't do hypos but instead do API Super Ich Cure in a q-tank. I like this method because it also cures secondary bacterial infections. Thanks for the article. So you liked the Super Ick Cure? That seems like it may be a better option in a QT tank than the Hypo. do you think when fish are sick in the ocean, they quickly swim up to river mouth and bathe in the freshwater... I feel like you're trying to compare apples and oranges. If we stuck 10 people in the house with a pathogen, cut the house off from the rest of the world in every way, then the pathogen would run rampant until everyone died or every developed an immunity. I'm just trying to avoid the everyone dying scenario. LEAVE THE FISH IN THE TANK! If you can't keep fish in a stress free enough environment with a good, healthy feeding regiment, that they can't easily get through ick on their own, you should not be keeping them. (thats not directed at you, just in general). Sure, chances are you'll see ick pop up from time to time, but if the fish is as healthy as it should be in your care, you shouldn't have to bat an eye. Just feed well, soak food in vitamins/ garlic, and you'll be fine. Unfortunetly the fish is already out of the tank. I did it as painless for the fish as I could and it seems like it has recovered pretty well and is swiming around and accepting food. I'm going to leave it in the tank for the time being looking at my options. I think at this point moving it back to the display tank would just stress it further. Edited March 4, 2010 by Happyfeet
trockafella March 4, 2010 March 4, 2010 Paul B was just talking about this at the last meeting.. Its all about having healthy (in spawning condition as paul puts it) and the fish will be fine.. Ive never gotten ich, and I like to think its bc I feed a plentiful amount of soaked food everyday (zoe/ selcon/ garlic) <-- or whatever you choose.. All of my fish are fat, healthy, active fish, I would like to think they are in spawning condition.. I know everyone has mixed feelings on what to do, but healthy fish will survive (usually) and really healthy (spawning condition) will rarely even get it, or atleast show signs of it.. I think often times we all panic and make irrational choices.. Thats just my $.02..
Happyfeet March 5, 2010 Author March 5, 2010 I've decided I'm going to place the tang back into the display tank. I think it will be less stressful for everyone involved.
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