magnetic1 December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 While looking closely in my tank, I noticed the underside of my Miami Orchid piece had a small round section that looked like it was flaking some. Ive seen something similar in the past when SPS touches frogspawn, etc, but nothing is remotely close to this piece that could sting it. Anyone have ideas what this might be? Should I cut and frag off the sections close to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 AEFW? did something stick to it that prevented light from reaching it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanman December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 AEFW? did something stick to it that prevented light from reaching it? Nothing like AEFW damage. Might be the start of RTN - so watch it, and if it gets even the tiniest bit larger, frag off a nice piece from as far away as you can, just in case. In fact, you might want to take a small frag immediately, as insurance. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 11, 2009 Author Share December 11, 2009 AEFW? did something stick to it that prevented light from reaching it? Nope. I dont think it is AEFW. I took the piece out and looked very closely. the ONLY thing I can think of would be maybe Joes Juice hitting it... but this piece is in a pretty high water flow area, so not much would "stick" to it. I only noticed this today and not 2 days ago. Cant think of anything I did in the past two days like touching it or getting Joe's Juice on it.... Im stumped. Some research seems to suggest maybe RTN/STN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ward December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 yup.. looks just like RTN/STN. I'd frag off a piece as far from the damage as possible and pray. The rest will probably be dead in 1-5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 +1 but what caused it? Nothing like AEFW damage. Might be the start of RTN - so watch it, and if it gets even the tiniest bit larger, frag off a nice piece from as far away as you can, just in case. In fact, you might want to take a small frag immediately, as insurance. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfoxfox December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 for the rookie here....... what is rtn/stn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 11, 2009 Author Share December 11, 2009 The only thing I did these past couple of days was remove that rock in an attempt to pick off all the Caluerpa algae that was growing all over. Perhaps taking it out of the tank stressed the coral enough that it started RTN/STN? I've cut off that piece with the RTN/STN. Should I frag off more pieces? or leave the rest? :( I lost a HUGE colony of Oregon Tort before in one night. Hope the same doesnt happen to this piece. It looks so colorful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 Frag a piece for sure but before you throw in the towel please try putting crazy glue over the affected area. Pat the dead part dry with a paper towel then add theg lue up to where the coral is still alive. I've tried this and it worked for me. RTN stopped spreading and algae grew over the dead section. You could just cut that section off and try the glue on the affected frag and see if it continues to spread. Worst that could happen is that it will die. The best is that the RTN will stop spreading and you'll have frag to give me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 Rapid tissue necrosis/soft tissue necrosis. It's a sign of injury or disease. Something caused the tissue to start to die off. for the rookie here....... what is rtn/stn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.fishnreef.com December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 RTN = Rapid Tissue Necrosis STN = Slow Tissue Necrosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 11, 2009 Author Share December 11, 2009 Frag a piece for sure but before you throw in the towel please try putting crazy glue over the affected area. Pat the dead part dry with a paper towel then add theg lue up to where the coral is still alive. I've tried this and it worked for me. RTN stopped spreading and algae grew over the dead section. You could just cut that section off and try the glue on the affected frag and see if it continues to spread. Worst that could happen is that it will die. The best is that the RTN will stop spreading and you'll have frag to give me . Sounds like a plan Jan! Super Glue Jelly Time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 Oops tanks. Thinking about humans and medical lingo. We get soft tissue necrosis. STN = Slow Tissue Necrosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 11, 2009 Author Share December 11, 2009 Super glue is on! Piece is fragged off, we will see what happens tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boret December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 I have the same thing happening to a couple of my corals. It started when I added the Vortech MP40W. I think they were happier with the flow before. :( Make sure you didn't change your flow or lights or something like that. The messed up thing is that it is happening to my green slimmer that looks otherwise super healthy. As a matter of fact it is growing new tips all over but RTNing at the base. We just know very little about coral diseases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate December 11, 2009 Share December 11, 2009 Definitely looks like signs of RTN'ing. Here is what happened to my GARF Purple Bonsai in 2 days after being stung by another SPS coral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 12, 2009 Author Share December 12, 2009 Jan, the super glue trick worked on that piece I fragged. Looks like you'll have a frag soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan December 12, 2009 Share December 12, 2009 I'm so glad it worked. Really? I'm getting a frag of this? Thank you! Jan, the super glue trick worked on that piece I fragged. Looks like you'll have a frag soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Lazar December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 Magnetic1, you may already know this but there are red bugs all over that miami orchid. Red bugs alone aren't thought to kill corals, but they irritate them and may contribute to a coral dying. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 13, 2009 Author Share December 13, 2009 Jon: I tried looking super close and did not see anything. ? Jan: Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefhunter December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 I dont see redbugs?? you must have good eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Lazar December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 magnetic1, they're most visible in your second photo, on the left side of the photo where the focus is sharpest. Zoom in and you'll see teeny yellow blobs with a dot of red. Once you've found a couple and know what you're looking for, it'll be easy to pick out lots of them. Fortunately they're one of the easiest pests to treat for. I dont see redbugs?? you must have good eyes! I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 13, 2009 Author Share December 13, 2009 O crap... not that you point them out... shiz. Easy treatment as in remove all my snails and crabs and nuke the tank with Interceptor? and killing off other pods, etc? Thanks for pointing them out in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanman December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 O crap... not that you point them out... shiz. Easy treatment as in remove all my snails and crabs and nuke the tank with Interceptor? and killing off other pods, etc? Thanks for pointing them out in the photo. Interceptor doesn't seem to bother snails - but will kill almost all of your hermits. (but not all, apparently - I still have a hermit running around in one of the tanks I nuked with it.) Oddly enough - it was a photo I posted on WAMAS that showed me MY redbugs. Until you've looked at them a few times, they ARE very hard to see. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetic1 December 13, 2009 Author Share December 13, 2009 (edited) So if left unchecked, these will for sure kill my SPS? or only if the SPS is stressed? I guess I can see if I can catch my Mandarin and Divided Leopard Wrasse. Those two are doing very well and Id hate to kill off their food supply. I started looking closely at some other pieces and there is an infestation alright... (zoom in and look at the base of this acro by the red blasto) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Edited December 13, 2009 by magnetic1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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