An agressive as well as attractive fish for a 50 gal fish only

[jason the filter freak]

Something thats not on this list

Frog Fish

Scorpion Fish

Lion Fish

[zotzer]

I love the looks of trigger fish...especially the picassos.

 

T

[gastone]

A nice dottyback would do the trick and would stay small enough. They should be quite able to take care of themselves as well.

 

Garrett.

[jason the filter freak]

Oh an aside from any eels too i don't think i could keep one in the tank

 

Tracy I was under the impression that the triggers get to big for this tank

[zotzer]

Tracy I was under the impression that the triggers get to big for this tank

 

Yeah, you are probably right.

 

Oh....might be a good tank for one of those princess damsels that I think are so attractive. They are a larger damsel, and really pretty. I think they are called Ocellate Damselfish.

 

Found a link: http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Di...cfm?pCatId=2563

 

tracy

Edited November 14, 2007 by zotzer

[extreme_tooth_decay]

Oscars?

[jason the filter freak]

I've never seen a $30 damsel maybe a candidate though, very attractive, keep the ideas comming

[txaggies07]

I've never seen a $30 damsel maybe a candidate though, very attractive, keep the ideas comming

 

I picked up an ocellate damsel from Petco for $2.99 back many months ago. Very beautiful fish. Sadly, it died in a pH crash that I had soon after moving to VA.

[extreme_tooth_decay]

I got 9 chromis from petco 2 years ago when I set up my tank for cycling. 3/$9

 

One left...my oldest fish!

 

tim

[jason the filter freak]

Hows this for a stock list for a 50 gal tank

1: Lionfish

1 or 2: saragrassium frog fish

1: Leaf Scorpion fish

1: Snoflake eel (If I can manage to keep him in)

1: Misc Fish that is small colorful and quick (under 3") or Lawnmower blenny (something that munches algea)

+Misc Clean up crew (larger hermits, larger turbos, and an urchin or two)

 

Equipment Aqua C pro skimmer with mag 3 plus overflow box, rena XP 4 cannister filter with carbo and phos zorb product, 2 or three misc power heads (6-700 gph)

2-3" deep sand bed and 60-80 lbs of rock

[Guest david]

I have been searching myself and I just read that Queen Angel fish. I quote from Marine Fish pocket book by Scott W. Michael - Considered among the most attractive.... pugnacious disposition... large juveniles and sudadults are specially aggressive.

It also says they can live up to 20 yrs incaptivity.

The sise might be the biggest draw back, adults can reach 17.7 in!!!

[extreme_tooth_decay]

Maybe a small stingray? They are cool.

 

And, if you go skewered we could stop making fun of zoo-inhaling Steve and start in on you.

[zotzer]

Orange Spot Blenny!!!!!!!

T

[rioreef]

I have been searching myself and I just read that Queen Angel fish. I quote from Marine Fish pocket book by Scott W. Michael - Considered among the most attractive.... pugnacious disposition... large juveniles and sudadults are specially aggressive.

It also says they can live up to 20 yrs incaptivity.

The sise might be the biggest draw back, adults can reach 17.7 in!!!

 

 

That is adults in the wild. With any fish that I have seen that starts out as a juvie in an aquarium never reaches the size it is capable of in the wild.

 

Still though, a 50g would probable be too small for Queen Angel.

[treesprite]

Jewelled damsel or velvet damsel. They are both black, one has flourescent blue dots all over it, and the other has flourescent blue squiggly lines on it. If I could have one in my tank, believe me I would, but they are mean mean mean!

[dmward99]

Any tangs? What about a kole tang? Or a yellow tang?I think they stay the smallest. There may be others not sure?

[treesprite]

Any tangs? What about a kole tang? Or a yellow tang?I think they stay the smallest. There may be others not sure?

 

There are no tangs that don't get bigger than 3", and a grown one is too much for a 50g with those other fish.

 

Jason,

isn't this a tank you were doing for your mom or something?

[jason the filter freak]

Jewelled damsel or velvet damsel. They are both black, one has flourescent blue dots all over it, and the other has flourescent blue squiggly lines on it. If I could have one in my tank, believe me I would, but they are mean mean mean!

 

Jewled damsel looks like crap when they grow upunfortunately

 

 

 

 

 

Jason,

isn't this a tank you were doing for your mom or something?

Yes it is

 

VERY IMPORTANT THIS TANK IS A TALL TANK NOT ALOT OF LEFT TO RIGHT SWIMMING ROOM

 

The foot print is 20" long, by 18" wide, by really tall

[treesprite]

I did not know that about them.... I guess the stores sell them before they get ugly.

[trble81]

You might want to rethink the eel...a little overflow almost cost you the hobby, an escaped eel might cost you your life

[treesprite]

You might want to rethink the eel...a little overflow almost cost you the hobby, an escaped eel might cost you your life

 

It wouldn't live out of the water would it? I know absolutely not one thing about eels and have never had an interest in looking for it.

[trble81]

It wouldn't live out of the water would it? I know absolutely not one thing about eels and have never had an interest in looking for it.

 

 

More so a dead eel on the floor as opposed to a B movie horror film that involves a snowflake eel terrorizing Jason's neighborhood

[davelin315]

Hows this for a stock list for a 50 gal tank

1: Lionfish

1 or 2: saragrassium frog fish

1: Leaf Scorpion fish

1: Snoflake eel (If I can manage to keep him in)

1: Misc Fish that is small colorful and quick (under 3") or Lawnmower blenny (something that munches algea)

+Misc Clean up crew (larger hermits, larger turbos, and an urchin or two

 

You're looking at 4 ambush predators in the tank with the first 4 so I'd say that if you get anything that is small enough to fit in a mouth, it'll get eaten. If you want to go with a lionfish, avoid the other ones. I would go with a black volitans lionfish, a snowflake eel, and a couple of damsels or a small puffer. I personally really like the Fiji puffers, not sure what species they are. They are small, colorful, and elegant swimmers that won't get eaten by the eel and know enough to steer clear of the lionfish. The way you've got your stocking list set up and with the dimensions of the tank, anything of any size will get killed when the lion gets larger, the eel included (the puffer could also get killed). Any small fish, especially those blennies that are being suggested, would get taken down as they swam away from one predator into range of the next.

 

Eels, by the way, are not as difficult to keep in as you might think. Just get a cover that does not have openings, or cover any with plex.

[jason the filter freak]

 

Eels, by the way, are not as difficult to keep in as you might think. Just get a cover that does not have openings, or cover any with plex.

I'm worried about gas exchange since I'm running sumpless, and the cover is going to be difficult since I have a lot of things running over the rim.

 

Here's a re thought stock list

 

Lion Fish

Snow Flake Eel

Sargrassium Frog Fish

Misc Puffer (All I see is a Saddle Valentini Puffer as appropriate size for my tank, seems like at 4" it make become lunch) any puffer suggestions? Also what do you feed them to trim down their beaks?

Misc Cheap damsels to be distractors in the tank, yellow tail blue most likely 2-3

 

 

Also whats the opnion on the large lawn mower blenny to eat algea, or is there something like a rabbit fish I could add.

 

Last but not least I don't really want to break about $45 dollars on any single fish

[davelin315]

Check out the combined Floris threads... there's some shots of the tank that has an eel. Sumpless, HOB filter, powerhead. That's it.

 

Ask Jager about the puffers. He's got a lot of info on them. As far as keeping their beaks trimmed, just give it some shrimp in the shell. I find that they grind their teeth as well so they reduce the size of their teeth all the time. They also will hunt small inverts in the rocks and grind on there, too.