eddiev0008 September 7, 2014 Share September 7, 2014 Hi I'm in a year with saltwater hobby. I just moved to my new condo. I don't have any experience with sump aquariums. I always had all in one. So my question is what would be a better choice for me. SR 60 or a deep blue 80 both rimless one needs a sump and the SR has all filtration built in. I already have a single gen 3 pro radion a IM reactor from my old Nuvo 30. Any advise or suggestions would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz123 September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 Welcome! I have two all in ones now and find that I prefer sumps. They are easier to clean and access. And more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 8, 2014 Author Share September 8, 2014 Lutz, Thank you for the advice. My only concern is that I'm not very handy on the DIY projects I guess that's why I always had bought the all in one I'm really wondering which one would be best for me. I never had a sump tank so let's see if anyone else has any advice on my topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 8, 2014 Author Share September 8, 2014 By the way I just joined WAMAS this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSexyShrimp September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz123 September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 Lutz, Thank you for the advice. My only concern is that I'm not very handy on the DIY projects I guess that's why I always had bought the all in one I'm really wondering which one would be best for me. I never had a sump tank so let's see if anyone else has any advice on my topic. I hear ya! I have no doubt that there will be a couple of others that chime in with how easy it is. Check out the glassholes kits. I totally agree that it is overwhelming. There are some good youtube videos on drilling glass (and planning your plumbing). This club is extremely helpful and someone (likely many) would gladly help you out. Start a tank build thread with your thoughts in the dedicated tanks section. And add your location to your profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 Welcome! Once you do it, you'll wonder why you made a big deal out of it! Ask as many questions as you can, and get comfortable with everything. I can't imagine not having a sump anymore! Is go with the deep blue 80. You will probably need 1 more radion, depending what you want to keep coral wise. Keep your eyes peeled for good deals and already put together setups in our FS section! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 8, 2014 Author Share September 8, 2014 YH, Thank you very much for your advice. I will look on the FS section to see. Thank you Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rburgee September 8, 2014 Share September 8, 2014 I would suggest the deep blue, IM tanks crack unexpectedly fairly frequently especially the 16s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltwaterfishman September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 they are both great tanks, the IM is easier for you because it has the sump built into the back, but with the deep blue a sump could be an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSexyShrimp September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 I would suggest the deep blue, IM tanks crack unexpectedly fairly frequently especially the 16s. I think that was a problem with the bent glass. The new fusions have square siliconed corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 9, 2014 Author Share September 9, 2014 (edited) Guys thanks for all the feedback and taking time to read my post! So as I had mentioned I'm not to convinced on the deep blue just that I feel that there is more work to do with a sump. The all in one sounds like it would be easier to manage , plus I already have most of the hardware for it just lacking a skimmer as for the deep blue I will have to purchase another gen 3 light plus a sump and a stand and return pump I think it's going to be more costly for the deep blue? Although I do love tangs and I know they do better on a larger aquarium ! I'm not too sure if I'm ready for A 80 gallon maybe I should stick with the 60? Edited September 9, 2014 by eddiev0008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSexyShrimp September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 I understand. I recently went with an all in one nano for similar reasons. Bigger tanks mean more stability, but also bigger water changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 Go with what you're comfortable with, seems you've already decided. Don't be intimidated by the size or the sump factor with the 80, but if you don't have the space, then that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rburgee September 9, 2014 Share September 9, 2014 I think that was a problem with the bent glass. The new fusions have square siliconed corners. True! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 10, 2014 Author Share September 10, 2014 Thank you for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 10, 2014 Author Share September 10, 2014 Is there a store in NOVA or in MD where I can see different brand tanks maybe already setup? Its hard to make up my mind on just looking at pics and youtube vids. I bealive its easier for me to decide if I can compare them physically in person. Any place you can suggest for me? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davjbeas September 10, 2014 Share September 10, 2014 The Marine scene has a great deal on the IM SR60 in their showroom They are in Herndon, VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshireboxers September 10, 2014 Share September 10, 2014 Welcome I have both kinds of set ups and trust me when I say go the sump route. Better water quality, more options, and easier to clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz123 September 11, 2014 Share September 11, 2014 (edited) And, though I understand why you would lean towards the all in one, a sump isn't complicated. It is simply gravity draining from your display, landing in the sump, and pumped back up to the display. You don't have to put anything in it but a return pump if you don't want to. I used to be terrified of flooding risks, and it is actually simple to avoid. You really don't have to be handy. Though I have had a sump, I haven't ever planned and set one up from scratch. So I got an undrilled 75 gallon and am anxious to get started. Yikes! And, not that it should matter one iota...I am a girl. Edited September 11, 2014 by lutz123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev0008 September 14, 2014 Author Share September 14, 2014 Ok guys good evening so I was doing more research as I'm leaning into my first sump aquarium, I found a manufacturer which is making a 70 gallon with sump, stand and protein skimmer all included for 1400! Less than the SR60 it's from cad called the artisian ii any feedback? Or should I stick with deep blue? I perfer the shallow tanks but this one looks like easy setup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz123 September 14, 2014 Share September 14, 2014 (edited) Well, if you are still looking, check out SC Aquariums. They sell full systems and are supposed to be very nice tanks. That is who I was going to go with before I ended up buying used. Editing to add...and they are very reasonable. Edited September 14, 2014 by lutz123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattiejay6 September 14, 2014 Share September 14, 2014 Cad lights is awesome.... Nice low iron glass etc.. You would not be dissapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffyGeos September 21, 2014 Share September 21, 2014 Ok guys good evening so I was doing more research as I'm leaning into my first sump aquarium, I found a manufacturer which is making a 70 gallon with sump, stand and protein skimmer all included for 1400! Less than the SR60 it's from cad called the artisian ii any feedback? Or should I stick with deep blue? I perfer the shallow tanks but this one looks like easy setup! Welcome! I would go with a sump if you have the space, it increases the quantity of water which helps stabilize the system. You will want to get it drilled with an overflow, (that is a whole topic by itself!). The sump also allows you to have space for other items like skimmers, refugiums, pumps, and reactors. Get the largest tanks and sump that you have space for since you don't need to filling he entire tank with rock, leave a lot of open space. All you need to do is ask the question " Has anyone ever bought a tank they thought was just right and then decide to upgrade to a larger tank with in a year." I have a IM 16g........was not large enough, now building a 300g tank and close to a 700g total system.....yea I have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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