Lowefx April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 I have a Current usa 48" Outer Orbit with 2x150w MH, I need to replace the ballast and I can't find a replacement. Please make any recommendations either factory or best brand that will work. Please keep in mind I need the same size as stock to fit in the housing. I am using double ended bulbs. I am also ordering from 1000bulbs.com so id like to make one order. Thanks in advance. Ready, set, go! Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCReefer1964 April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 I recommend searching ebay, or upgrade to (2) 250W ballast and run them external. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 For what it's worth: Look for an ANSI M81 ballast that fits your size requirements. That's the kind of ballast that you need to drive a 150W MH DE (RC2) HID lamp like you've described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 Moved topic from members discussion to general discussion and deleted the duplicate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx April 22, 2016 Author Share April 22, 2016 Ok, thanks for the info. I do not want to swap to 250w Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 Ok, thanks for the info. I do not want to swap to 250w Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk 250's are longer, wider and have a different connector at either end. That would have to be factored in if you did choose to go that direction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx April 22, 2016 Author Share April 22, 2016 Maybe in the future, not right now. I found that asni m81 for $90 and I'll need two. Any other less expensive options? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind April 28, 2016 Share April 28, 2016 Is it currently a core and coil ballast or electronic? Electronic or canned ballasts cost more then open core and coil ballasts but don't provide better performance in my opinion. If you have the space look into a core and coil ballast as they tend to be cheaper. Ebay is normally a cheap place to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx April 28, 2016 Author Share April 28, 2016 (edited) I'm not knowledgeable on electronic or canned, but I know my bulbs are HQI double ended bulbs. Does that help? This was recommended for me https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/101029/BA-ICN2S54T35I.html As well as https://premiumaquatics.com/products/ati-dimmable-54w-2-bulb-t5-ballast.html Please advise Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Edited April 28, 2016 by Lowefx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind April 28, 2016 Share April 28, 2016 (edited) Both of those are for T5 fluorescent lamps so they will not work!! Open your fixture and post a pic of what you have now so we can find a better match. Edited April 28, 2016 by Coral Hind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind April 28, 2016 Share April 28, 2016 Since you said you wanted to use 1000bulbs.com I've post these that might work from that site. They do not have M81 ballasts listed so these are M102. ANSI M102 is listed as a single ended lamp but they are electrically almost the same as an M81. THe M81 has a higher pulse voltage at starting because the bulb design allows it. The M102 have the slightly lower pulse voltage means the on a hot restrike the bulb will need to cool down a few minutes longer before restrike. Since we don't turn our tank lights off and on frequently this isn't a big issue. Here are core and coil magnetic ballasts. You can see why they are named that by the copper coils around an iron core. Less expensive but take up more space, can have a hum to them, and can be heavy. Last longer than electronic ballast in my opinion. https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/4tap-150-watt-metal-halide-ballasts/ F-can ballasts are core and coil ballasts secured in a tin housing that is filled with tar for protection and noise reduction. https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/5987/BS-MH0150F.html Here are the electronic versions. One is even listed as ANSI code M81. They are more compact but pricey! https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/120-v-150-watt-metal-halide-ballasts/ I would look at the general age of your fixture and it might be easier and cost effective to get a new fixture over ballast replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx April 28, 2016 Author Share April 28, 2016 Shoot, you know what, I mixed up my threads. I'm replacing my t5 ballasts too. Sorry for the mistake. I will post pics asap Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx April 28, 2016 Author Share April 28, 2016 What about http://depotlighting.com/-p-303.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA2b20BRDj4buduIG-y9EBEiQAhgMGFUkPjyIN3JNA5No5IEsIufY_qwEs_UV6YK9pjgMlZz4aAhZ18P8HAQ Or https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/93393/BF-H7UNV150HSC.html Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveS April 28, 2016 Share April 28, 2016 If you are looking for T5 ballasts, just stop by Home Depot. Pretty cheap, very convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind April 29, 2016 Share April 29, 2016 What about http://depotlighting.com/-p-303.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiA2b20BRDj4buduIG-y9EBEiQAhgMGFUkPjyIN3JNA5No5IEsIufY_qwEs_UV6YK9pjgMlZz4aAhZ18P8HAQ Or https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/93393/BF-H7UNV150HSC.html Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Both of those will fire your lamp. Just check specs on size to make sure they fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx April 29, 2016 Author Share April 29, 2016 I plan on tearing apart my fixture this weekend. Pics to come... Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx May 9, 2016 Author Share May 9, 2016 Ok here we go. I took a picture of both MH ballast. Not sure if they have been tampered with before I got the fixture, but as you can tell, they don't look the same. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx May 9, 2016 Author Share May 9, 2016 I will be removing the PC'S and replacing them with T5's from other fixture. Coral Hind please take a look. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind May 10, 2016 Share May 10, 2016 The MH ballast look to be the same style and age to me. Probably original as I don't see a bunch of wire nuts where it was swapped out. Swapping the PC lamps with the T5 lamps is doable and I've done it to several fixtures. http://wamas.org/forums/topic/31637-modification-of-coralife-aquapro-pcs-to-t5s/?p=274157 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx May 10, 2016 Author Share May 10, 2016 Nice thread, but how did you mount the end connectors? Or did you buy replacements. Yours is very clean. Mine is kind of rusted so I might take a sander to what I can reach. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind May 11, 2016 Share May 11, 2016 Below are the lamp holders I used. I just drilled and bolted them in. http://www.businesslights.com/challenger-t5-fluorescent-twist-and-lock-lampholder.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx May 11, 2016 Author Share May 11, 2016 Nice. I will check locally before ordering online Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx May 25, 2016 Author Share May 25, 2016 (edited) Welp, just ordered all ballasts. The m81 at 1000bulbs was out of stock....so they made a suggestion that m142 will also work. Only a few $ more. https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/111365/BF-H7UNV150HBC.html I'd like to get wiring started up this weekend, but I belive these parts won't be in until early next week. I want to confirm the m142 will also work...anyone? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Edited May 25, 2016 by Lowefx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt May 25, 2016 Share May 25, 2016 perhaps you're too committed now...but if you needs parts... http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/for/5586465349.html This is not mine, just saw it and thought of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowefx May 25, 2016 Author Share May 25, 2016 (edited) Yeah, too committed, plus I need double. Thanks for the thought tho. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Edited May 25, 2016 by Lowefx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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