Pants November 24, 2013 Author Share November 24, 2013 Its about 4-6 months before they are big enough. I lost so many last time I don't want to have people queuing up until they are nearly ready. I really think I'll be able to do better this time, but lets wait at least 4 months before we start looking for homes for these. Also I might just give them all to Sharkey after I get them past the first few weeks (we still need to discuss it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 November 24, 2013 Share November 24, 2013 I am happy to take them and raise them and then pass them on to whoever you tell me to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants November 27, 2013 Author Share November 27, 2013 So far all are still alive and eating well. I am trying to gut load the baby brine with nannochloropsis. Not sure if the freshly hatched brine are eating it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave w November 28, 2013 Share November 28, 2013 New hatched baby brine don't eat for something like 24 hours, they live on their yolk sack. But then you can gut load them if they are still small enough to be consumed by the fry. Baby brine with the yolk sack have a weird nutritional profile, and gut loading them with Nannochloropsis is a good improvement. You can improve another big step by cultivating a second algae like ISO, and then the HUFA fatty acid profile of the two algaes in combination will be more complete. There are also emulsions on the market that you can use to gut load brine shrimp. Brine shrimp are famous for growing strongly on even the "weed" algaes in the wild, so you could even get some water from the river, increase the salinity, and add some fertilizer to bloom the blue green algae and tetraselmis. TET is one algae that will survive the salinity change and can be found in both fresh and salt water, but there are probably others in local waters as well. Any combination of phyto will be another step up from just Nanno. This sounds like a great project and I think you're doing a great job. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants November 28, 2013 Author Share November 28, 2013 Awesome post. thank you. I had wondered if they would still eat with their yolk sacks. I've been feeding them when they are just 12 hours old. I've been using a nano paste from brineshrimpdirect. I've had pretty good luck getting them to frozen food quickly (really as soon as they are big enough to eat cyclops). We have a saltwater cultured tetraselmis at work so I could play with that with the next batch of baby fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants November 30, 2013 Author Share November 30, 2013 They are definitely eating frozen Rotifers now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 November 30, 2013 Share November 30, 2013 sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants December 23, 2013 Author Share December 23, 2013 As I write this the female bangaii is doing her vibrate next to the male thing she does at the start of their dance where she gives him the eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 December 23, 2013 Share December 23, 2013 Awesome. My male is holding eggs again today. They were doing the vibrating dance yesterday….. Hoping for better luck this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime December 23, 2013 Share December 23, 2013 So cool, pants, saw your fry at Sharkeys, wicked cool project you two are working here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave w December 23, 2013 Share December 23, 2013 I'm sure you've already tried this, but wait until they are good and hungry, then give them the new food. It is more likely that they will take a chance on a new food if they are hungry. If they don't take to the new food, then you can give them live bbs again. You've probably already thought of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 December 24, 2013 Share December 24, 2013 Thanks Dave… they are getting there. I offered frozen brine today and some of them ate the smaller pieces. Then tonight I offered frozen shrimp roe and most if not all ate it. Very exciting. It makes my life a lot easier and increases the odds of survival. It also makes it a lot easier to feed them enough to make them grow! I either try and wait until they are hungry to introduce something new, or introduce it with the bbs to try and fool them into taking a bite. If my male can hang onto his clutch this time (he is young and immature and after a few days he's like screw this not eating thing…. ) and pants gets another clutch we are going to have a lot more babies soon enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 January 1, 2014 Share January 1, 2014 Still have 17 babies. They are now completely weaned to frozen making my life MUCH easier. But they are still smaller than a dime and can only eat cyclops and roe and some brine shrimp pieces. On a less positive note my male dropped his second clutch. Dude is SO immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants January 1, 2014 Author Share January 1, 2014 That is good. The live food can be very annoying. How big is your male? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 January 1, 2014 Share January 1, 2014 He is from your last clutch.. One of the two that I kept. He's still very young… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2nhle January 16, 2014 Share January 16, 2014 do you still have any I would like to have a male and female too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 January 17, 2014 Share January 17, 2014 All 17 of the babies I got from Pants a few weeks ago are doing great. Their bodies are slightly smaller than a dime still, but they are all eating small frozen mysis. I will keep them for at least another month because they are so small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR-Tanked150 January 17, 2014 Share January 17, 2014 Can you post a picture of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 January 23, 2014 Share January 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR-Tanked150 January 23, 2014 Share January 23, 2014 How do you tell the difference between male and female? I have one still little, that I would like to pair up one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkey18 January 23, 2014 Share January 23, 2014 You really can't tell reliably by looking at them. I can tell by behavior once they are mature, but that's it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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