YHSublime February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 So I started shaping my rock up the way I'd like it in the tank... and I'm in love with what I've made. It's precariously put together on a carpet and trash bags in front of my tank... can someone direct me in what I can use to hold it together that's tank safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYfan78 February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Try coral/rock putty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 (edited) I was aquascaping today also. Although I chose to use gravity alone to hold my rocks, I have been recommended the following for holding rocks: JB Water Weld (from HD or Lowes) Aquascape Epoxy Gorilla Glue (not wet and cured before adding water) Non glue or epoxy ways...include drilling holes and using plastic dowels or pvs pipes..... Edited February 24, 2013 by howaboutme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 Try coral/rock putty. Maybe that with some superglue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimlin February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 you can use coral glue with epoxy or you can drill holes and putting acrylic rods through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelcruiser February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 If you use the plastic dowels with the epoxy as long as you let it cure before you put it in water you don't have to worry about glue, the epoxy will harden and hold really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 Thanks for the quick answers all. I have coral epoxy, so I'll just use that. I was aquascaping today also. Although I chose to use gravity alone to hold my rocks, I have been recommended the following for holding rocks: JB Water Weld (from HD or Lowes) Aquascape Epoxy Gorilla Glue (not wet and cured before adding water) Non glue or epoxy ways...include drilling holes and using plastic dowels or pvs pipes..... I had my rocks just thrown in to get my cycle moving, in no particular fashion. I witnessed a rock get blown over when I turned my return pump on while working on my sump. A medium sized rock at that. I'm going to say "no thanks" to gravity, less chance of a cracked tank and 60 gallons of saltwater on my carpeted floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 Also the rock is "live." I don't know how long it stays that way out of water, but I'd like to get it back in the tank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 I was aquascaping today also. Although I chose to use gravity alone to hold my rocks. Jedi stack, always the best if you get tired of the scape, use the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 I witnessed a rock get blown over when I turned my return pump on while working on my sump. A medium sized rock at that. I'm going to say "no thanks" to gravity, less chance of a cracked tank and 60 gallons of saltwater on my carpeted floor. Yeah, you definitely have to be careful and have the right kind of shaped rocks to do it w/ just gravity. Plenty do it just like that and have been successful. I'm thinking this is easier in case I want to move the rocks (I know epoxy can be undone) for re-aquascaping, cleaning, catching fish, etc.....For just a 29G, the lesser of 2 evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoutlaw February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Marco Rocks puts out a solution that you can use to make structures. I've tried everything listed above, including the force, and the Marco Rocks stuff is the best. However, it does need to dry for 24 hours, but it's textured and holds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Thanks for the quick answers all. I have coral epoxy, so I'll just use that. I had my rocks just thrown in to get my cycle moving, in no particular fashion. I witnessed a rock get blown over when I turned my return pump on while working on my sump. A medium sized rock at that. I'm going to say "no thanks" to gravity, less chance of a cracked tank and 60 gallons of saltwater on my carpeted floor. If you decide not to use epoxy, the stack must be secure. If it wiggles at all, it is not secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 If you decide not to use epoxy, the stack must be secure. If it wiggles at all, it is not secure. I'm using epoxy. I'm 100% positive that I like it how I've got it. If I need to change it I'll break it apart with a hammer and chisel, or whatever I have to do. Although, I think I have a little bit to much rock for my tank. Stupid large overflow box. Wouldn't have this problem with a cube, haha. Must train more. "a Jedi's strength flows from the Force, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. -Me, aquascaping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelcruiser February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Also the rock is "live." I don't know how long it stays that way out of water, but I'd like to get it back in the tank! I would get it back in the water ASAP the die off from leaving your rock out is going to mess your water up if its already cycled lots of water changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Also the rock is "live." I don't know how long it stays that way out of water, but I'd like to get it back in the tank! Some, if not all, of the epoxy listed is good for glueing wet so keep your rocks in the water except for when securing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 I never had good luck with the JB water weld wet. It worked great if it could dry before getting it wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 I never had good luck with the JB water weld wet. It worked great if it could dry before getting it wet. Good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surf&turf February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 BRK sells an epoxy that is awesome, it will even stick to glass. I just can't remember the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachabballi reef February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Marco Rocks puts out a solution that you can use to make structures. I've tried everything listed above, including the force, and the Marco Rocks stuff is the best. However, it does need to dry for 24 hours, but it's textured and holds great. can it cure in the tank water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howaboutme February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Up late and having fun, huh? And yeah, these designs definitely need to be glued together...A few of these, I barely see a 1/4" of rock touching the other...The force wouldn't work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBVette February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 I have some e-Marco 400 mortar left over from my build if you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 I have some e-Marco 400 mortar left over from my build if you want it. That would be very cool of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBVette February 24, 2013 Share February 24, 2013 Shoot me a pm and we can try to figure out meeting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime February 24, 2013 Author Share February 24, 2013 Up late and having fun, huh? It's when I get my best work done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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