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Ok, what are the pros and cons of the internal vs external return pumps. I know that there are some nice external pumps out there, but I have this fear of having a gasket or seal break and ending up with tank and sump water all over the floor!

Internal pumps can add a little heat to the tank but if a little heat added to the tank is not an issue for you then I would go internal. No fears of leaking seals and they are quieter then external pumps. It also depends on what space you have in the sump.

Never thought about that as an issue...

 

My problem with external pumps is that they have to be plumbed so they can be "primed" before they will pump. I learned this meant they have to be sitting in the water flow (water inside the pump) before they will pull.

 

I was trying to build a water change system that required the pump to pull water up and out of my sump...had to change my design.

 

Other than that, I think they are more noisy than internal pumps. Thx

A key about internal pumps is that the electrical components are underwater....common return pumps like Mag Drives can leak current which can give you a good jolt if you aren't careful.

 

FWIW I love my Reeflo Dart/Snapper Hybrid External...it's incredibly quiet, never has leaked, and moves a TON of water. Also for an external pump it is pretty small (not red dragon sized, but not red dragon priced...)

 

A final thought...if you put a check valve on an external pump and prime it once, it should stay primed even if it's above the water line. Reeflo provides a diagram of how to plumb their pumps like this.

Never thought about that as an issue...

 

I know of one member here that recently had a seal fail which let his top off keep running to make up for the water being lost onto the floor. This top off running through a kalk reactor crashed his tank.

If you have the cash, go with a Red Dragon pump. They're a pretty penny but they can be run internal or external, and don't have seals to leak when run externally. They're also SILENT (~28dB that I saw in a youtube vid)

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