schenktank February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 when i first set up my new tank i was freaking out because i thought i found a bunch of juvenile mantis shrimp. just realized after watching a big sucker this mornin that theyre isopods. fish lice? will this be a problem in a nano tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallreef February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 are you sure they are isopods and not copepods??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 3, 2012 Author Share February 3, 2012 yea no doubt they look like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 3, 2012 Author Share February 3, 2012 unless copepods can get over a half inch long. with big black alien eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 Can you get a better picture? Be careful, if you have the Cirulanoid (sp?) isopod they are very dangerous, not only to fish, but also to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 3, 2012 Author Share February 3, 2012 why to me? no i rarely see them and my camera sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YBeNormal February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-05/rs/index.php "If you can catch the fish, the isopod may be removed with a pair of forceps. Carefully!!! Upon removal, the fish should be isolated in a hospital tank, and treated with antibiotics until the wound heals. The bug may be disposed of. Carefully!!! About 15 years ago, I had a student who was holding in her clenched hand a 1.5 inch long Aegid. The bug cut through the flesh of her palm, dug in, and started to eat HER. Her vocal response was rather impressive. So was the tenacity of the isopod, it was HARD to remove!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 3, 2012 Author Share February 3, 2012 wow thats really startling. i am positive the last one i saw was a aegid or a cirulanoid i have to look at the eyes better next time but im leaning toward aegid. i guess ill have to keep on the lookout for them and try to remove them. something always ends up biting me. this should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vadim February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 get some gloves from a aquarium store before doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightline February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 wow thats really startling. i am positive the last one i saw was a aegid or a cirulanoid i have to look at the eyes better next time but im leaning toward aegid. i guess ill have to keep on the lookout for them and try to remove them. something always ends up biting me. this should be fun. roflmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 3, 2012 Author Share February 3, 2012 do i really have to buy everything from an aquarium store? gloves even? pain is weakness leaving the body lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 February 3, 2012 Share February 3, 2012 http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/bp/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 4, 2012 Author Share February 4, 2012 yea its definitly cino..whatever. i just found the one from this morning dead and removed it. thanks for the info mista vice president. i guess he died in the 2-6 month range like there known to. hopefully this will keep happening, three down...who knows how many to go. creepy lookin little devil. eyes look like a fly's almost. wiah i could get a good pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 Where did you get the rock from? I'd let them know that they've got these as they can really decimate a tank and also cause injury to people. I'd recommend treating the rock somehow to get rid of them if you are positive with your ID. Figure out what conditions will kill them off and then do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberFrog February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 I would throw the rock away. Or give it to My mother in law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefoholic February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 <br />I would throw the rock away. Or give it to My mother in law.<br /><br /><br /><br /> You must love love love your mother in law. Admirable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overklok February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunWyrm February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 ^+1 I had to pull one off a frehwater fish years ago... The fish screamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 4, 2012 Author Share February 4, 2012 got the rock from a place in glen burnie called house of tropicals. it looks alot like the garf rock though. really nice rock besides the whole isopod problem. saw a piece in there yesterday with big feather dusters and 3 open brains on it. ill definitely let them know though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 4, 2012 Author Share February 4, 2012 really cant afford to throw it away. only have a oscelaris and a red headed goby in there. i would hate to see them get the lice on them but if the isopods cant find a host they should die eventually right? i feel like with the two months the tank has been up and running with no fish they would be too weak to easily get on the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 I'm an idiot too then because when I came back into the hobby I didn't know about WAMAS when I purchased my Nano cube and LR from someone on CL. I saw these large flat roach looking things that moved really fast scurrying around the rocks and asked the seller what they were. She said, scary looking aren't they. Well yes, but what are they? Just crustaceans, is what I was told. I took the rock home and luckily had to cycle my tank. The cycling must have caused these critters to die off. I was actually disappointed that I didn't see them again. who would have known? You're no idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan February 4, 2012 Share February 4, 2012 I don't agree with you on this. If/when they reproduce their offspring will be small enough to latch on to your fish. Move your fish to QT, reduce the SG in your tank, re-cycle and be at peace. If they attach to your fish you'll have a much harder time treating. They'll get weak and those pests may attach to you too. Not worth it, IMO. really cant afford to throw it away. only have a oscelaris and a red headed goby in there. i would hate to see them get the lice on them but if the isopods cant find a host they should die eventually right? i feel like with the two months the tank has been up and running with no fish they would be too weak to easily get on the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schenktank February 5, 2012 Author Share February 5, 2012 unfortunately i dont have a qt. how would they have reproduced without a food source to keep them alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunWyrm February 5, 2012 Share February 5, 2012 (edited) I'm with Jan, these things are too nasty to take any chances. With only 2 fish you could set up a small/cheap qt temporarily and a qt is always something you want to have for emergencies like this. Edit: After research it seems that they will starve after 2-6 months without fish. And they will go through small fish rather quickly. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/bp/index.php I now have a nightmare to surpass bristleworms. Edited February 5, 2012 by YiatzOfEden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt LeBaron February 5, 2012 Share February 5, 2012 Wow...well this is scary. Makes my decision to not purchase live stock from House of Tropicals now extend to live rock or really anything alive now... Schentank I have a 15G with a 10G for sump with filter, heater, protein skimmer and a HOB overflow you can have for free to use as a QT if you need it. I was going to sell it but it's yours for free if you come pick it all up. Once you're done with it pass it on to someone else who can use it. If you're interested (and have room for them) message me and we can arrange for a time to pick it up. Only thing you'd need to get for it is a better pump to push water from the sump to the main tank, a $30 Maxi-jet 1200 would work fine I imagine. The Maxi-jet 600 I have isn't really going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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