ID tomato clown disease asap please

[treesprite]

I am really frustrated with all the fish problems I'm having. Now my tomato clowns which I've had for around 6 years, which are in their own tank and have never been in a tank that had a sick fish in it, have some kind of white sort of pointy things all over them (as opposed to flat, circular, or tufts), which was not there at all yesterday. I was wondering if I accidently used something for that tank that I had used in the QT the tang was in, but this looks like a totally different thing from the tang. The fish may have gotten very stressed out a few days ago when I had them in a bucket so that I could re-arrange the liverock, so maybe the stress trashed their immune systems. If anyone knows what this is, please tell me so I can treat these fish. Pic is of female. Thanks.

Edited January 3, 2009 by treesprite

[sheac12]

Those look really close to what my maroon clown had. Unfortunately I didn't treat in time, but I am pretty sure it was a fungus. I am by no way a disease expert, but if I had to do it over again, I would think about a fresh water dip with methyl blue and maybe a copper treatment in qt.

 

Please take my word as an idea and not as an answer. Hopefully someone else can help.

Edited January 3, 2009 by sheac12

[overklok]

That could be the slime coat of the clownfish you are seeing. Sometimes the organism that is infecting the fish causes the slime coat to react.

[lanman]

That could be the slime coat of the clownfish you are seeing. Sometimes the organism that is infecting the fish causes the slime coat to react.

Or stress??

 

bob

[treesprite]

Some of the larger ones look like spikes sticking into the fish. I don't want to end up doing tons of treatments and ending up with the fish dying. I would be horrified if these clowns died.

 

Is there something on this list that would be good as a first start, or should I go to the store?

Cuprex (copper)

Maryacin II

"Super Ick Cure" (3.6mg malachite green + 60mg nitrofurazone)

Formalin

From FW fish days... these are rather old:

Quick Cure (99.20% formaldehyde + .75% malachite green)

"Fungus Eliminator" (sodium chloride + nitrofurazone + furazolidine + potassium dichromate)

 

The female clown is too large to treat in my 10g QT and I can't buy a new tank just to put medication in it. Does anyone have a used tank to sell really cheap or that I could borrow that doesn't care about discolored silicone?

[F&Fmgr]

I would start with formailn baths as it appears to be either brooklynella or chilodonella. formalin is very effective against these two as they are very similiar. If you see it get worse or not fet better after 3-4 days of daily baths, then i would move onto copper sulfate, even if you have to do it in the ten gallon tank. as it may be Amyloodinium, marine velvet. If it is the latter then you'd need to get the fish in a copper solution as soon as you rulle the first two out.

 

I have some larger tanks I could sell for cheap because they are used.

 

Hope that helps

 

Sean

[F&Fmgr]

Also BTW, when a fish slimes like that, it is a typical immune response to ectoparasites trying to or succeding in penetrating the epithelium.

 

Sean

[treesprite]

Can anyone give me tips on using formalin?

[dschflier]

If you need a 20 to use as long as needed and want to come to Alexandria you are welcome. I have one sitting doing nothing

[treesprite]

If you need a 20 to use as long as needed and want to come to Alexandria you are welcome. I have one sitting doing nothing

Thanks. I got a tank.

 

Well, I was waiting to get the qt set up to start treating the fish. I finally got the QT all set up a couple hours ago and now am holding off treatment pending further consult from ya all, because the fish miraculously now looks like this:

 

So what do you think? Should I or should I not still treat my clowns? Will the stuff come back or not?

[CHUBAKAH]

I kind of live by the rule "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

 

He/she looks much better.

 

Congrats.

[lanman]

I kind of live by the rule "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

 

He/she looks much better.

 

Congrats.

 

+1

 

Just keep an eye on them.

 

bob