jamesbuf March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Found this at premiumaquatics.com. http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/m...Code=Wavemaking Looks pretty sweet. Jason doesn't have to make those evil looking monstrosities anymore.
jason the filter freak March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 looks like some one was paying attention when iemailed them my robo scwd pics. i resent that comment james. my robo scwd was a work of art... ok maybe not
YBeNormal March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Looks pretty sweet. Jason doesn't have to make those evil looking monstrosities anymore. Now he'll have to find a new use for the top of his washing machine!
jamesbuf March 13, 2008 Author March 13, 2008 hahaha. It appears that you can open up the top of it for cleaning, so if properly maintained, it looks like this version would last alot longer than the previous model. I loved my old scwd when I had it on my hexagon tank. I'm actually tempted to sell my sea swirl on go with one of these.
traveller7 March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Looks like the added threads from the prototype as well....but price is up $20 from estimate. Might have to try one myself
DaveS March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Yea I've been trying to figure out a way to deal with the 1400GPH limit on the current SCWDs. Mine vibrate with my 2400GPH pump. I'm ordering 2 ASAP!
jamesbuf March 13, 2008 Author March 13, 2008 Yea I've been trying to figure out a way to deal with the 1400GPH limit on the current SCWDs. Mine vibrate with my 2400GPH pump. I'm ordering 2 ASAP! Definitely let us know how they work out. They can handle up to 3500gph, so what are you buying 2 of them?
DaveS March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Definitely let us know how they work out. They can handle up to 3500gph, so what are you buying 2 of them? Yea. Right now I got a Pan-World 200PS that pumps about 1750GPH. The output gets T-ed to two SCWDs. The SCWDs rattle as they go through their rotation. I talked with the 3iQ guy and he stood by the "max rating is 1400GPH" line even though I said it was T'ed and so in theory each SCWD is getting 875GPH. Maybe he's right, maybe not I'm no SCWD-master. One thing I can say is that when I use the ball valve after the T to turn down the flow to one side, the SCWD on that side does stop rattling. This observation corroborates flow rate being the issue and not the actual SCWD mechanism. Going theory- even though it's T'ed, when one side is mid-way through it's rotation and essentially partially blocking both ports, it drives up the pressure to the other side which then rattles. I love the SCWDs! Wave making without another motorized electric device to plug in! I almost got a Ocean Motions 4-way but hesitated because of price. Heck I love the SCWDs and hate the rattling so much I almost downgraded my PS-200 to two PS-150s. Each pump would have been plumbed into one of the two SCWDs giving each 1100GPH. It would have also given me pump redundancy which is another goal at some point. This weekend as a temporary measure I was going to take one SCWD out, replace it with a T and reduce flow to the other. Now I don't have to do that! Heck if this thing works, I can even throw in another 200PS and go with my plan for pump redundancy. 3500GPH flow for my 180... I'll let everyone know how they are when I get them.
ErikS March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Day late & a dollar short...................I'll wager the unit exhibits the same "qaulity" as their other products = the top will leak like a sieve in short order.
steveoutlaw March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Day late & a dollar short...................I'll wager the unit exhibits the same "qaulity" as their other products = the top will leak like a sieve in short order. I ran a SCWD for years on a mag12 and never had a problem........never even had to clean it. Most things that I've read about the SCWD is that it works great......as long as you don't exceed their pressure requirements. The one's I've read about that explode were on pumps exceeding the 1400 gph.
HowardofNOVA March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 I loved the older style, just had to remember to give them a vinegar bath every 6 months and where like new! New size has potential for sure!
ErikS March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 I ran a SCWD for years on a mag12 and never had a problem........never even had to clean it. Most things that I've read about the SCWD is that it works great......as long as you don't exceed their pressure requirements. The one's I've read about that explode were on pumps exceeding the 1400 gph. Yep, I'm the only one that had problems................................. Given the replies here match every thread I've ever seen? 75% Failure rate, tremendous flow loss, prone to permanent leaking - that's quality right there, yes sir. Note: 500gph minimum flow rate tells me once again it will have a significant flow loss. At $30 one could put up with the "issues", at $100 shipped?
steveoutlaw March 13, 2008 March 13, 2008 Yep, I'm the only one that had problems................................. Given the replies here match every thread I've ever seen? 75% Failure rate, tremendous flow loss, prone to permanent leaking - that's quality right there, yes sir. Note: 500gph minimum flow rate tells me once again it will have a significant flow loss. At $30 one could put up with the "issues", at $100 shipped? Now don't be bitter Erik.......I never said you were the ONLY one that had problems. Seems like 1/2 of them like the SCWDs and 1/2 of them don't. I'll give you my impression after I get mine going. Now........when are you taking me golfing at Montclair???
jamesbuf March 13, 2008 Author March 13, 2008 I've definitely read some people having problems with the old model, but I thought most of them were from people not using a prefilter sponge on the feed pump. I ran on with a Mag 9 for about a year with no problems. I did use the sponge on the Mag 9. I've seen quite a few people use them with alot of success too. I do agree that the $90 is a bit much for the new one. Still tempting though. My Riteri anenome use to love my scwd. I had both the outflows directed at the Riteri, but on different sides. It loved the back and forth action. A big reason I'm contemplating on selling my sea swirl to get one. With 2 members in the club about to start using them, I'll wait to see the reviews.
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