dandy7200 January 2, 2007 January 2, 2007 First attempt came out pretty good: Everything was done on the router table. Five pieces required. Then glue together, sand, sand, sand, sand These are a bit time consuming and I know why Spazz on RC gets a hundred bucks a pop for 'em but, they can be done without a CNC and they obviously work very well as they plethora of Deltecers will tell ya.
jason the filter freak January 2, 2007 January 2, 2007 could i ask what these are good for dan? The look cool and like they took a while to make
dandy7200 January 2, 2007 Author January 2, 2007 You know the typical keyhole flanges that require all of those little 1/4-20 screws to connect two tubes? Or those big ol unions that you have to twist round and round and round? These seal two tubes and release with a 1/4 turn. What am I doing with them? Thats a differant thread Your gonna have to wait
NAGA January 2, 2007 January 2, 2007 Dan, that looks great............very impressed. In the future you might find it a little more beneficial to use pvc or abs plastic. Both are a little softer and less brittle and durability is the big benefit. Though with that the machining by hand is much trickyer. If you give me a sample of what you want I can have a cnc router replicate it for a very reasonable charge. That's only if you need a few more or if others really want it. Charge may be 10 bucks a flange as I would only charge for the material. Just a thought and offer.
dandy7200 January 2, 2007 Author January 2, 2007 Thanks Chip and Jeff, Funny you guys are the ones to say something since this is directly related to the CMAS discussion your having right now What I want to know is why for $400 the km500 doesn't come with a top like this? It may not be absolutely needed but, wouldn't hurt and surely would give the product a nicer "feel" to it. That said, SUPER GENEROUS OFFER NAGA! This is actually just a prototype I made and was going to remake a nicer one today using black cast acrylic vs. this extruded. I would be happy to send you this one or make the individual parts for another and give you that. I didn't know you had a CNC, although I never ask now did I? How many axis does it have and what autocad program do you use? I might be able to get you the code which would save some considerble amount of time, from what I have herd it's programming the ramps that is the killer. Regardless, here is couple links that are hosting scalable files of the template. The first is a .bmp and the second is a .psd http://www.reeflogix.com/images/rc/twistlock/twistlock.bmp http://www.reeflogix.com/images/rc/twistlock/twistlock.psd Dan
flowerseller January 2, 2007 January 2, 2007 Well I realized what you were doing from our discussion the other night but was just playing along with the secret. So will that make yours an "airthight" unit or just able to pump up? Both? Still nice work for hand routing. Thank god fingers regenerate. NOT! I's be interested in several flanges for my next project but on a slightly larger scale. I assume you can enlarge the diagram to fit different size needs?
dandy7200 January 2, 2007 Author January 2, 2007 Your going to make me start a new thread huh? Thank god fingers regenerate. NOT! Respect your tools and they don't bite. The last tool I lost that respect for was the simple pvc pipe cutters, the ones that rachet....I cut through my finger to the bone effectively clamping my left hand to some 1" pipe that was in a very akward position.....took near 15 minutes by myself' to get the rachet loosened with my one free hand. For me it's always the tools that you think are completely "risk free" that get me.....certain tools for me, I will never loose respect for, the router is one of those.
NAGA January 3, 2007 January 3, 2007 I have access to 3 axis and 5 axis cnc routers. When your ready just send me a sample and I will get something made.
dandy7200 January 3, 2007 Author January 3, 2007 I am not a patient person well that and I do enjoy this part of the hobby. Version 2 I think I got pretty darn close to CNC quality milling. I put a proper 1/32" gasket in there as well.
YBeNormal January 3, 2007 January 3, 2007 D*** you're good! I'd love to see pics of the jigs you made for this project.
dandy7200 January 3, 2007 Author January 3, 2007 I just made a template for the 2 pieces that lock with some paper and transfered that to a 1/2" piece of particle board. drilled a hole in the middle of the board and radius holes in the sacrificial top for my router table. Carpet taped works awesome to attach the acrylic to the particle board and then trim with a flush trim bit freehand. The other 3 pieces were just spun out on the table with the same radius pin method. The only jig you would need for this project would be if you wanted to ramp the wings on the router table. I decided it was easier to just do this by hand rather than take the Acme screw out of my tail vise on the bench and build the jig.
YBeNormal January 3, 2007 January 3, 2007 Thanks Dan. I thought maybe you had MacGyver'd some jigs to make the job easier. Anyway, great job and thanks again for sharing!
NAGA January 3, 2007 January 3, 2007 Seriously, very impressive Dan, you ready to build your 4x4x30 tank now?
ErikS January 4, 2007 January 4, 2007 (edited) I decided it was easier to just do this by hand rather than take the Acme screw out of my tail vise on the bench and build the jig. No need for that, just replace the pin with a coarse thread bolt............unscrew & viola ramps. They don't need to ramp much as you already know Where did you get the accurate templates for the parts? (invalid file for me on the 2nd link) Edited January 4, 2007 by ErikS
dandy7200 January 5, 2007 Author January 5, 2007 Eric, the first link should work and is a .bmp image I made. It is scalable in any program you may have for that. The second link is a .psd that is photoshop file and very easy to scale for me although you need that program.
ErikS January 5, 2007 January 5, 2007 Ah, thanks......I was trying Paintshop Pro (forgot the Photoshop extension). Oops, forgot to mention - nice twist locks!
dandy7200 January 6, 2007 Author January 6, 2007 I should have asked for a router table for X-Mas! Build your own for cheaper and better.....really mine right now is a reinforced stand for a 75 gallon tank with a sheet of MDF on top. Fence is a 4' level with a scrap of MDF attached to it. Total cost $0. It works fine for holding the Portercable 790 with 1/4" collet bits. I HAD a nice table I built for my Portercable 7518 but when in storage while waiting for my new shop to be finished it got destroyed :( Oh yeah, the worst part was my Incra fence was bent and completely useless I'll replace it eventually but, really for this type of work you just need a table with a router bolted to it.
YBeNormal January 7, 2007 January 7, 2007 Bent and busted Incra fence? Ouch! Those aren't cheap at all. Real nice to have, but not cheap.
dandy7200 January 7, 2007 Author January 7, 2007 Well just bent. The crappy thing about a precision tool is that when it goes just a bit off, it's pretty much garbage. I did get 1/2 what I paid back though on e-bay (fully disclosed it's condition), so it wasn't a total loss. Eventually I'll get a new one, they are killer fences.
YBeNormal January 7, 2007 January 7, 2007 Yep. I put one on my cheapo Craftsman table saw several years ago and it makes a world of difference. The fence cost as much as the table saw but I don't regret the purchase at all.
dandy7200 February 7, 2007 Author February 7, 2007 This one I made with sheet PVC, routed a channel for a silicone gasket and is for a skimmer application so the lid has a 4" hole It still needs the 2 hours of sanding but, you get the idea. Also I shortened the wings a little bit from the original and this is much better in terms of locking smoothly, a 1/8 of a twist and on/off it goes.
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