Der ABT August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 (edited) ok after an eventful weekend with some power "issues" at the house.. have an old mag 9 thats been my temporary return pump till i finished my transfer (at this rate ill never finish haha though i do have all the fish transferred) it was having some restart issues and got me remembering its close to replacement time and to use it for a backup. ive been looking into the waveline, diablo etc etc dc6000 and 12000, 12000 was going to be if i used it to feed a frag tank on the opposite wall and a manifold but i think i could actually get away with the 6000 the more i think of it. but also recently saw the jebao dc6000, basically a really cheap nockoff of the waveline etc. gen2 pumps and its blue instead of black or red. i like the diablo for the 2 yr warranty. but for half the price the jebao is hard to pass up though shipping is annoying so a group buy would probably have to get coordinated. anyone got one? any suggestions etc. thoughts etc...trying to justify spending the money vs warranty/cheap version. for 50w (dc pump) vs 80-100w (waterblaster/mag9) for all other pumps its about 40 bucks a year savings so if it lasts longer than the warranty youve made up the price difference vs a mag (though yuor heater will be on more) and every year after it still runs your eating away at the cost. Edited August 20, 2013 by Der ABT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djplus1 August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 Are they selling that in the US yet? One of the last group buys said that it was not available for US sale I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djplus1 August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 All of those pumps are knockoffs of each other, btw. All made in the exact same factory, re-badged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der ABT August 20, 2013 Author Share August 20, 2013 i know they are all knock offs with whatever the company adds but the warranty is NOT the same...coralvue..id trust their warranty long before id trust jebao . some put in titanium screws etc etc etc.... ive seen a few threads where they have come to the us but it was directly from jebao if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djplus1 August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 i know they are all knock offs with whatever the company adds but the warranty is NOT the same...coralvue..id trust their warranty long before id trust jebao . some put in titanium screws etc etc etc.... ive seen a few threads where they have come to the us but it was directly from jebao if im not mistaken. That would be cool if they were available. I didn't bother asking with the new Jebao group buy that just closed last week. Kind of wish I did now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallreef August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 (edited) I'm jumping in on the waveline dc pumps...thinking of doing a 12000 since I'm going to put 4 returns I the tank...splitting it 2 ways... Edited August 20, 2013 by smallreef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 I'm jumping in on the waveline dc pumps...thinking of doing a 12000 since I'm going to put 4 returns I the tank...splitting it 2 ways... I would, I'm on 2 and I think it JUST cuts it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCReefer1964 August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bcy5ZmgRkM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 Show me a 6000 now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCReefer1964 August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 Show me a 6000 now! Just play 1/2 of the video, and it will be a 6000. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 Just play 1/2 of the video, and it will be a 6000. LOL Hahaha! Good one! But seriously. if you're looking for any kind of serious flow, I only have one return, granted, a few 90 degrees in there, and I'm getting enough to move water into my sump and back at top speed, but not a lot of pressure. Two nozzles off my 1 return. If you're planning on 4 returns, Kim, I would wait for the 12000. I don't want folks to be dissapointed with the 6000, but it just cuts it for a 150. My offer stands to anybody who wants to see it in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCReefer1964 August 20, 2013 Share August 20, 2013 Hahaha! Good one! But seriously. if you're looking for any kind of serious flow, I only have one return, granted, a few 90 degrees in there, and I'm getting enough to move water into my sump and back at top speed, but not a lot of pressure. Two nozzles off my 1 return. If you're planning on 4 returns, Kim, I would wait for the 12000. I don't want folks to be dissapointed with the 6000, but it just cuts it for a 150. My offer stands to anybody who wants to see it in action. Thanks for the advice Brother . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basser9 August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 A mistake alot of people make is not getting the larger pump as a return and using it on a lower setting. Getting the large pump and running at a low setting keeps the powerpack cool and the noise level is dead silent at the lower power levels. I prefer the 1st gen pumps i use the speedwave which is around for 200.00.......used at half power you will think it is off its so quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.x-ray August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 I'm running a DC6000 to the 80g frag tank. The 6000 would be good with 2 outlets. But if your gonna put anymore to it that's iffy. Smallreef. I'd get the 12000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy357 August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 I am running the DC5000 on my 90 with 2 returns that or both split and it is just barely cutting it at full power I would recommend the DC12000 because that is what I am going to upgrade to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallreef August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 Hey Jake...me too! Gonna put in a special order so I will hopefully have it by the end of sept...hopefully they will get them sent out soon!; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy357 August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 Hey Jake...me too! Gonna put in a special order so I will hopefully have it by the end of sept...hopefully they will get them sent out soon!; Where are you pre-ordering from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkiboy August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 Hey Jake...me too! Gonna put in a special order so I will hopefully have it by the end of sept...hopefully they will get them sent out soon!;any reason you prefer the waveline over the diablo that is a bit easier to get? was looking to pick up the last dc10500 from diablo but sold out this morning at both shops i tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy357 August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 My current waveline DC5000 is super quite and works like a champ the only reason I am going to upgrade it is because it just doesn't put out enough flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 Kim, I would wait for the 12000. I don't want folks to be dissapointed with the 6000, but it just cuts it for a 150. My offer stands to anybody who wants to see it in action. I'm running a DC6000 to the 80g frag tank. The 6000 would be good with 2 outlets. But if your gonna put anymore to it that's iffy. Smallreef. I'd get the 12000. I am running the DC5000 on my 90 with 2 returns that or both split and it is just barely cutting it at full power I would recommend the DC12000 because that is what I am going to upgrade to. My current waveline DC5000 is super quite and works like a champ the only reason I am going to upgrade it is because it just doesn't put out enough flow. x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkiboy August 21, 2013 Share August 21, 2013 evan, i was finally able to get a call back from someone who had the diablo dc10500s in stock. should be arriving friday if you want to stop by and check it out. i ordered two just in case as they are impossible to get and didn't want to put my build on hold for not jumping at the chance while they were available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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