mosheikh September 14, 2004 Share September 14, 2004 Hi, Im taking biology 1 honors and they said that I have to do a mandatory sceince fair project. I gave a list to my teacher of things i would do..and she said no..so I told her, can I put different coral frags in seperate tanks with different lightings and nutreints in each tank. So to make this project possible, I would appreciate if anybody can donate me anything to help get this project started... Thanks a bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bill33 September 14, 2004 Share September 14, 2004 not to be a d*** but... you wont have enough time for all of this. the frags will barly grow in 2-3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Houshan September 14, 2004 Share September 14, 2004 Woah Bill ... watch the language. I think some people are gonna be offended. Might wanna edit your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosheikh September 14, 2004 Author Share September 14, 2004 yeah, calm down Bill...Ill have to take the risk my self, because its a mandatory projects..and risks will be involved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bill33 September 14, 2004 Share September 14, 2004 im calm i was just saying you wont have enough time and you are asking way to much from people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cjm033 September 14, 2004 Share September 14, 2004 "I told her, can I put different coral frags in seperate tanks with different LIGHTINGS AND NUTRIENTS in each tank" this^^^ is where i see a problem. youd have pick one of the other, nutrients or lighting. those are 2 totally different variables that both have big this to do with it. if i were you id do different lighting.make sure you do everything EXACTLY THE SAME in both taks except for the lighting. so if u dose in one tank dose the same in the other, if you do a w/c in one tank do the exact same amount with the other at the same params matching in the water and so on. make sure you fully think everything through with this project, and start asap. only thing i think that would backfire is that the effects of nutrients in a tank and of different types and amounts of lighting have already been proven and stuff. -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosheikh September 14, 2004 Author Share September 14, 2004 ok...im going to start this friday..so ok, ill do the different types of lighting on zoos, and someother frag in each tank...i may just buy the tanks and light..but may just need some frags of zoos and other easy to handle frag...and a filter..Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cjm033 September 15, 2004 Share September 15, 2004 ill check in my room if i can find a heater, i think i may have a spare or 2. if you have any questions or nee dany help just im me on chrisisthereefer. -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest va_reefman September 15, 2004 Share September 15, 2004 Here are some questions: How many tanks and lighting are you planning on buying for this project? Do you know how much does it cost for all this "just" for this one project? What kind of time do you have for this project? Corals don't start to grow right away when you put them in the tank. They take time to acclimate to water/lighting/current and all that good stuff before they even moving. You WILL run out of time before you will be able to document anything for your project. Idea: ==== Why don't you setup 3-4 10g plastic rubbermaid tubs in a row and light them with the same 48" twin bulbs shoplight. In each of the tub, grow different macro algea and observe/monitor the growth rate and their behavior. It will be much cheaper and you can see the results fast...time is what you don't have so stay away from corals. You can even go further by puting more rocks/sand in some of the tub and observe the life that comes from the tub. Be creative and don't burn all your money. Save it to buy corals for your real reef. HTH, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosheikh September 15, 2004 Author Share September 15, 2004 Seems a good idea...i might purchase a jbj nano 12g tank..so i can grow macro algae..and have another tank setup as another macro species in that thank.. Thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelg September 15, 2004 Share September 15, 2004 That's a great suggestion John- nutrient affects on algal growth is actually a far more important study than coral growth response to lighting (which has been beaten to death for the most part) when it comes to what's happening on the reefs. Runoff from agriculture being one facet to it that has a huge impact on algae overgrowing reefs. Cruise ship dumping another.. For a lighting study, I would like to hear something novel proposed to make it worthwhile (will take some actual research into both the scientific and hobby literature to get the answer- which for a science fair project should be done). Lighting intensity, color, etc as it affects growth rate just isn't that informative to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest va_reefman September 16, 2004 Share September 16, 2004 Thanks Mike. I thought it would be easier and more economical for him to do the project without folking out a lot of money. After all, he is still in school so funding is somewhat limitted. Lighting is a whole other ball game though. Even with the same lighting spec, we(me and some others around here) still see a different in coloration from the same coral we shared. There are just too many variables affecting the study. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogurnda September 16, 2004 Share September 16, 2004 Something I'd be interested in would be the ability of macroalgae to use nitrate vs ammonia as a nitrogen source. In FW plants it varies between species, and I have no idea whether people have looked at nitrogen utilization in the commonly kept macros like gracilaria, caulerpa, ulva or chaetomorpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosheikh September 19, 2004 Author Share September 19, 2004 Thank You Steve(Sph2sail) for the wonderful frags you gave me...I really appreciate it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sph2sail September 21, 2004 Share September 21, 2004 Like I said... post pics. Keep us up to date. Also need your teacher's email address please. happy to donate. thx, s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosheikh September 27, 2004 Author Share September 27, 2004 will do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tgallo October 2, 2004 Share October 2, 2004 did you get my email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosheikh October 3, 2004 Author Share October 3, 2004 no i didnt receive your email...please can you resend it to msheikh90@gbsector.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capsfan September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 Man. I am in the exact same situation. Hon Biology 1, Mandatory Science Project, and I was even thinking about the same project. It just seems like its going to run me a fortune to do an experiment I don't even want to have to do. My hat is off to you for doing this experiment. I'm too cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisS September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 Have you considered doing it with macroalgae instead of coral? It grows a lot faster so you could actually have some decent growth in 2-3 weeks. I have some dragon's tongue I can visually see the growth from day to day. I can give you some it you want. Of there are lots of people who could likely give you some fast growing cheato or caulerpa. You could get some 10g tanks pretty cheap and some different lights. Or just get one long (48" or 36") light and lay it across all the tanks lined up side by side. That way they're all getting the exact same light. Buy a bottle of seachem flourish and dose each tank different amounts. You could put a small powerhead in each tank or even easier just get one air pump and run some tubbing into each tank. That would be enough water movement for macros. I bet if you asked here you could find members willing to lend you the tanks, lights, and such. So all you'd have to buy is a bottle of flourish. The experiment could be really easy. Get the tanks set up. Get some macro. Borrow a scale. Blot dry the macro and weight the same size portion for each tank. Dose some different levels of flourish in each tank. Repeat doses once or twice a week. At the end take out the macro, dry it off, weight it, and see the difference in growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 Apologies to everyone, when I moved this forum I reset it to show all threads... this one is from 2004... but, rest assured, there will be some new threads coming soon! Cedar Lane is alive and kicking and I have begun the process of moving tanks back into Floris. Expect to see at least 5, if not 8 tanks at Floris this year, with one possible experimental tank as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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