Protein Skimmer Installation in a Tall, Crowded Sump.

[Mich]

Hi,

 

I've recently started putting together a new 156 gallon reef setup. For the sump I'm using a 45 gallon aquarium (36L X 13W X 24H) wich has already become fairly crowded with various media and equipment. Right now I'm in the process of shopping for a protein skimmer. My objective is to have something I can put outside the sump that won't collide with the underside of the tank. My two primary issues are that my stand is 36" high and my sump is 24", I want to keep the outlets of the skimmer level or above the water in the sump, but still have enough room to take off the cup to empty the skimmate. Also, my sump is pretty full already, so there's not much room for putting the skimmer inside.

 

So I'm thinking, would putting upward ninety degree elbows on the outlets of the skimmer reap disastrous consequences? Or, is there possibly a skimmer that doesn't require the outlet(s) to be at or above the sump water level? What if I connect the outlet to the suction side of a power head?

 

Any input or suggestions would be highly highly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Mike

[zygote2k]

There are several good hang on units like a T1000 Multi SL. I believe someone has one for sale here...

If you put 90's on the outflow of the skimmer, it will most likely cause the water level inside it to rise.

Maybe you could place some of the media reactors on the outside of the sump and get a good skimmer that will go inside the sump. I believe someone here is selling an ASM G1 skimmer with no pump for $40 that will work great for your set-up.

Edited February 18, 2009 by zygote2k

[MisterTang]

Mike,

 

I would not put 90 degree elbows on the outlet of a skimmer without a LOT of testing. Skimmers are built with a certain amount of "out-flow" in the design, and if you tamper with this, you risk a backup into your collection cup and out the top. At best, this dumps concentrated fish turds into your sump, and at worst, it shoots water out of your sump (have seen this).

 

I would opt for either the HOB-style like the TurboFlotor, or a recirculating one like the fantastic build Brian Ward just did, which I believe can run completely outside of the sump.

[Mich]

Thank you both for your responses,

 

I've actually been leaning toward the turboflotor for a couple of days now. The ASM G1, looks decent as well, but since you've both mentioned the turboflotor, I tend to feel my inclination strengthening in that direction. However I'd like to know a little more more about recirculating skimmers before I make a decision. Do you know what Brian Ward calls his?

[zygote2k]

I have used the T1000 sump version and the ASM G1x. Both are about the same price, but it seems like the ASM is easier to fine tune for optimum performance. If you become a full member, I believe you can look up Brian Ward from the Members List.

[MisterTang]

I was very happy with the TurboFlotor, but to be honest, I do not believe it will be adequate for your water volume. About six weeks ago, I upgraded to an Octopus with a recirc mod, and I have pulled out seven liters (that's three-and-a-half soda bottles) worth of skimmate. I would've gotten about a sixth of this with my TurboFlotor.

 

Go recirc or gate-mod if you can finagle it.

[Origami]

I was very happy with the TurboFlotor, but to be honest, I do not believe it will be adequate for your water volume. About six weeks ago, I upgraded to an Octopus with a recirc mod, and I have pulled out seven liters (that's three-and-a-half soda bottles) worth of skimmate. I would've gotten about a sixth of this with my TurboFlotor.

 

Go recirc or gate-mod if you can finagle it.

 

Agreed. I think you're pushing the limits of a Turboflotor Multi SL with 156 gallons in system with a medium to heavy load. (I ran one for over a year on about 110 gallons and outgrew it.) Octopus makes skimmers with good value. That's one path you might take.