MY 40gl plan!!

[Rascal]

but how do you keep the rocks from falling down if a fish were to swim heavily near it?? or hit it or something.. or an anemone walking around

 

how do they stay put- even if they dont move in the position they are in how can you guarentee that they wont fall later

 

Gravity.

 

Like Lanman said -- just make sure everything is stable. If you are worried about it, keep re-aquascaping until everything fits. Make sure the rocks on the bottom won't shift, even if this means pushing them down through the substrate so they are just supported by the bottom of the tank, and then keep working with the rest of the rocks until they all fit together.

 

Fish are not going to knock your rocks over. They are actually pretty good swimmers, really. They tend not to bump into things unless you are dosing vodka for nitrate reduction.

 

Things that might cause rockslides: urchings, large turbo snails, and if your rocks aren't resting on the bottom, anything that might tunnel under them. In this case though, epoxy isn't likely to help.

[treesprite]

hmm so i added a bit of phosguard (by seachem) (supposed to be a PO4 and sillicate control... but) my hair algae hasnt changed- my calerpa is fading and cyno is reappearing...

 

hmm i didnt add the whole dosage of it to let the life get used to it i washed it off - i thought pretty well...

should i add more?

 

my emerald crab is chompiing away- i might get more of them they are kinda cute

 

 

I might get one or 2 more myself... they really are cute

 

I just looked at descriptions on several different sites and it's wild how many different descriptions there are - one said they get to 4", some say 1, some say 2, some say they are shiny and look shiny and others do not. What is your's like? Mine is only like 1 or 1.5" and is a lighter green, dull not shiny.

Edited September 9, 2007 by treesprite

[lanman]

I might get one or 2 more myself... they really are cute

 

I just looked at descriptions on several different sites and it's wild how many different descriptions there are - one said they get to 4", some say 1, some say 2, some say they are shiny and look shiny and others do not. What is your's like? Mine is only like 1 or 1.5" and is a lighter green, dull not shiny.

 

Mine is 2", and is reddish-pink. Dull, not shiny. He lives in my sump, because it looked like he was killing snails - even when I was spot feeding him.

 

bob

[zotzer]

He lives in my sump, because it looked like he was killing snails - even when I was spot feeding him.

 

That's why I am going to do my best to stick with a snail-only CUC. Crabs are opportunists, and if I can avoid them, I will! LOL

 

They seem to be doing an okay job so far, but time to get more trochus.

 

Tracy

[toastiireefs]

mine is like 2in ish light-dark green- (really cute) and a bit shinyish mostly dull-

 

 

but i still have the hair algae problem i've just been pulling it out...

[toastiireefs]

so how to get rid of cyno once and for all?

it was gone for the longest time... but its back now..

[YBeNormal]

so how to get rid of cyno once and for all?

 

Drain the tank?

 

Seriously though, you need to focus on what is causing or allow it to grow in the first place rather than how to get rid of it. Make conditions inhospitable for it and it will be gone permanently. Increased or improved flow and clean water are #1 candidates on the list other than removing as much of the cyano as posible by hand or by siphoning.

[toastiireefs]

Drain the tank?

 

Seriously though, you need to focus on what is causing or allow it to grow in the first place rather than how to get rid of it. Make conditions inhospitable for it and it will be gone permanently. Increased or improved flow and clean water are #1 candidates on the list other than removing as much of the cyano as posible by hand or by siphoning.

 

 

well locating the problem would be a step towards getting rid of it right?

im gonna get some water mixing and do a large water change

[toastiireefs]

ok so now cyano is gone- HA retreating

 

i uped the flow and temporarily removed EVERYthing that could harbor nitrates-

 

but some of it is gonna go back on.. just i'll clean it more often

 

 

 

sooooo

i think i might get a pair of erectus seahorses instead of a pair of clowns..

i saw the most beautiful pictures of some that a guy on seahorse.org is selling (many ppl have bought from him and they are CB:))

and get only the more peacful of my fish choices-

 

im still gonna get i think a lawnmower benny- or bicolor. still not positive yet-

Do you guys notice any agression from them toward other docile fish?

Id also only do softies (coral wise) i'll prolly fill my tank with ricordia and zoas

maybe some other soft nice sweet guys that are seahorse compatible

 

so id get

2 erectus

1 lawnmower

prolly still a fire fish or pearly jaw

 

and are there any other peacful water colum swimming fish?

Edited September 26, 2007 by toastiireefs

[treesprite]

ok so now cyano is gone- HA retreating

 

i uped the flow and temporarily removed EVERYthing that could harbor nitrates-

 

but some of it is gonna go back on.. just i'll clean it more often

sooooo

i think i might get a pair of erectus seahorses instead of a pair of clowns..

i saw the most beautiful pictures of some that a guy on seahorse.org is selling (many ppl have bought from him and they are CB:))

and get only the more peacful of my fish choices-

 

im still gonna get i think a lawnmower benny- or bicolor. still not positive yet-

Do you guys notice any agression from them toward other docile fish?

Id also only do softies (coral wise) i'll prolly fill my tank with ricordia and zoas

maybe some other soft nice sweet guys that are seahorse compatible

 

so id get

2 erectus

1 lawnmower

prolly still a fire fish or pearly jaw

 

and are there any other peacful water colum swimming fish?

 

I only know what I've read, and you're the one who keeps seahorses, but my understanding is that there are only a few kinds of fish that can be kept with them, and that corals can't be kept with them. Someone will have to correct me if what I've read is incorrect.

[toastiireefs]

I only know what I've read, and you're the one who keeps seahorses, but my understanding is that there are only a few kinds of fish that can be kept with them, and that corals can't be kept with them. Someone will have to correct me if what I've read is incorrect.

 

 

only softies can be kept with them- i know lots of ppl who keep them

 

i might not do it now i just got the quote and its like 182 for 2 of them

it depends...

so again im just gonna go with the flow.

Edited September 27, 2007 by toastiireefs

[zotzer]

I've heard that lawnmowers can be territorial, but I have to say that my orange spot is totally peaceful. He does zip around alot, and I am not sure how that will go over with seahorses. I think both the tailspot blenny and barnacle blenny are teeny, so if they zip around like my blenny does, they won't leave such a wake in their trail. LOL

 

I think most people don't keep hard corals with seahorses, simply because they like much more flow than people feel is compatible with seahorses. I don't think low-lying softies should be a problem, from what I have read.

 

tracy

[treesprite]

that is a lot of money just for a couple seahorses

[toastiireefs]

that is a lot of money just for a couple seahorses

 

 

yea!!!

 

but thats on the lower scale of pricing too

 

but like shipping is unbelievable

55per horse

plus 72$ ship

[treesprite]

yea!!!

 

but thats on the lower scale of pricing too

 

but like shipping is unbelievable

55per horse

plus 72$ ship

 

Good lord, why is shipping so high? Do they do some kind of specialized seahorse packaging or something?

[lanman]

Good lord, why is shipping so high? Do they do some kind of specialized seahorse packaging or something?

 

Oh, you know Sara... she just HAD to get the accessory kit. That miniature saddle costs more than the seahorse itself!

 

bob

[toastiireefs]

Oh, you know Sara... she just HAD to get the accessory kit. That miniature saddle costs more than the seahorse itself!

 

bob

 

 

hahaha

 

 

well its a lot of water weight for 2 horses.. and its from florida?

i feel like that shouldnt affect it though

 

and just cuz of t he pricing (unless i get a steady job SOON) i wont be able to afford it

......

actually thats not true one 12hr night shift of the kinda job i got now will give me more than enough to get them

but still its a lot to spend

[toastiireefs]

hmmm i dont think i should go with the seahorses--

 

i wont beable to keep the amount of "diversity" i want in my tank-- for a communities tank- i wont be able to keep the fish i want- too risky

 

some LSP is ok with seahorses like candycane and sun corals, but doesnt matter-

just generally i think clowns in the long run are a better idea! and getting those CB at a LFS isnt that hard- (i believe) or i might order online with any of my fish

 

so by next sunday (not tomorrow) i should have some sort of herbivore blenny!

bicolor/ lawnmower/ or tailspot

depends whats in stock

[toastiireefs]

so im def not doing the horses

 

but any last comments on bennies before the weekend-

should i get some mysis as well to suplement their diet with or just vegie matter?.

 

wha place should i get it at?

i was thinking scales?

[wreck]

I like Aquarium One and it's close to Bethesda, closest place to me besides Congressional. Aquarium One is a small place, but prices are good and they give WAMAS members 10% discount also the staff is always helpful. I don't know what blennies they have in stock, but the scooter blenny I got a few a months ago was healthy from the beginning and thriving in my tank.

 

so im def not doing the horses

 

but any last comments on bennies before the weekend-

should i get some mysis as well to suplement their diet with or just vegie matter?.

 

wha place should i get it at?

i was thinking scales?

[toastiireefs]

I like Aquarium One and it's close to Bethesda, closest place to me besides Congressional. Aquarium One is a small place, but prices are good and they give WAMAS members 10% discount also the staff is always helpful. I don't know what blennies they have in stock, but the scooter blenny I got a few a months ago was healthy from the beginning and thriving in my tank.

 

yea its a really cute store!

i went in there but they didnt have a wide selection due to they were just about to get in a new animal shipment.

 

i will email both places!

im sooo excited

[toastiireefs]

only a few more days!!! im sooo excited!

[toastiireefs]

off to go gt my fish in a few min anylast suggestions?

[toastiireefs]

WOOOHOOO!

 

got .... two fish..

i had too

i got both the blennies a tailspot and lawnmower

[treesprite]

you should have waited till tonight when I go over - could have seen each other