Guest alex wlazlak October 20, 2005 October 20, 2005 the title explains it all. i get home from school, look around the tank, and see his tail, and no movement. the thing im thinking did it was last night i began running air through my bak-pak. im not sure when he died but it had to be some time last night. all basic tests are normal except nitrate, which is always high. the other fish are acting, and breathing noramly. what do you guys think killed it?
Folta October 20, 2005 October 20, 2005 Were there any markings on the fish (like bite marks) ? Did you notice any signs of stress before today? (nipped fins, overly quick movement to hide, etc). When you say you began running air through your bakpak, what exactly do you mean?
Guest alex wlazlak October 20, 2005 October 20, 2005 like on the maxi-jet, how there is that airline tube and you can close it or open it, i had it totally open. and it began skimming, not as good as skimmate as my seaclone, but it was skimming fast. ive got pics of him below. all the color on his dorsal fin is gone, and his "neck" was all torn up. his one eye was white, and he looked bloated. the day earlyer he was normal.
Folta October 20, 2005 October 20, 2005 Hmm... I don't think the air intake would be the culprit... unless it frightened him and he stressed out. How long have you had this fish? What other fish/inverts do you have in the tank?
Guest alex wlazlak October 20, 2005 October 20, 2005 ive had him for alteast a year or a year and a half. there were any bubbles in the tank. there are only hermit crabs and snails. maybe he was just chilling out (like always) and got atacked by KILLER CRABS. i dont know. ill be getting the tests back from the coroner soon . i have noticed however, that my clown has been julting around, usually off the powerhead, almost as if hes itching himself. what up with that? hes been doing it once in a while for the last month or so, but he seems to be doing fine.
rocko918 October 20, 2005 October 20, 2005 all basic tests are normal except nitrate, which is always high. what do you guys think killed it? 42693[/snapback] I would highly recommend you really try and get your Nitrate down. If you keep adding suff your tank it will never settle. The dead fish did not help your nitrate ethier. Work on getting you water parms in check. :whip:
Guest alex wlazlak October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 i know i know. i really need to do water changes. im just scared that even more stuff will dye off because last time i did water changes thats what happened. maybe monday ill do one cause id like to be there a few days after i do it. and i need to get another power head.
davelin315 October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 Alex, even without doing water changes you can get your nitrates to settle down by simply leaving things alone for a bit. Add some macroalgae to your system to get rid of the excess nutrients and cut back on feeding and you'll see your nitrates go down. As far as the fish, no idea why it died, although the tears to it's gills look like it was eaten a bit, but that was most likely after death. Blennies are tough little fish and I would be surprised to see something attack and kill it.
Guest alex wlazlak October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 yeah i had this guy when i had my 29g set up. he lived thorugh 2-3 ammonia spikes and everything. i saw my tang tearing up a piece of nori and the clown was rite next to him and the clown tried to eat some, and the tang tried to stap him with the white things on its rear end. i never saw somthing like that before, but im sure i dont want to see it again if you know what i mean.... maybe thats what happened? im not sure because they never messed with eachother before though. ill try to just leave the tank alone, but thats pretty much what i do normaly. the only thing i added in the past 2 months was a seabae, which is doing well i might add. before that i had got some xenia and its growing pretty good now. should i get like an emerald crab to help clean up stuff now? and what kind of marcro algea should i get? whatever the LFS has or what. wont my tang eat it though???
rocko918 October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 you can get some cheato, tangs won't touch that. When you do a water change you should do small water changes, like 5 gallons, and do them ocne a week. That will help.
Guest alex wlazlak October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 ill try to do like 3 next week then. what about red macro?
unninair October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 you can get some cheato, tangs won't touch that. 42742[/snapback] Mine finished off a baseball size ball in a week.. :D
rocko918 October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 Mine finished off a baseball size ball in a week.. :D 42755[/snapback] Of cheato? What tang was that? I had a PB, Kole, Yellow and Naso that would not go near it.
Caribbean Jake October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 Of cheato? What tang was that? I had a PB, Kole, Yellow and Naso that would not go near it. 42767[/snapback] my yellow tang and hippo finished a ball size cheato in less than a week. I also noticed that my flame angel and pygmi angle both nibbled on it.
unninair October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 Alex, Do you have an undergravel filter in your tank? Unni
ErikS October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 Ditto - rabbit fish chows down on the stuff, mimic tang not so much (nibbled, may learn to eat it).
Caribbean Jake October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 Alex Did you find out what ever happen to your blennie?
Guest alex wlazlak October 21, 2005 October 21, 2005 i do not have an undergravel fitler. why? and i did not really find out what happened. maybe it was when i had began to run air thorugh it he got stressed out because it was loud.
Guest alex wlazlak October 23, 2005 October 23, 2005 i used to never skim at all for like a year.... im not even sure though. there are so many things that i now know cause of the site, and that i didnt know when i started my tank...
Caribbean Jake October 23, 2005 October 23, 2005 Alex Since my tank conception I keep a log of everything that happens in and around my tank, including the day I buy a fish or coral, the price, and store. Also keep a log of those "mis-haps" like sand stir, blown motor, temp spike, bulb changed, alk level and CA level, water changes and percentage changed, etc. Basically everything that happens in my tank is documented and it has been for the last 3 years. Why? Because I can go back day by day and understand what may have created the problem in the first place and could attribute the events to one or two single actions. I suggest you and everyone interested starts a log and keep it up to date. It does not need to be extensive. You can actually just write for example: changed 10% water with fresh saltwater. or: added CA to tank - 1 bottle cap. Is that simple, but it helps in the long run. Now back to your problem. Did you distrubed the sand days previous to the death of your fish? Did you move a rock, or added an additive, chemical, or food to your tank days before the death? These all can give you a clue to what happened. Hope this helps you and other WAMAS members. Jacob
Folta October 23, 2005 October 23, 2005 Whats wrong with stirring up your sand a bit? Pending that you've not had the sandbed for years, that is...
unninair October 23, 2005 October 23, 2005 I believe differnet types of bacteria is present at different depth (layers) in the soil... I have heard that mixing them up messes with the eco-system in your tank
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