jnguyen4007 August 22, 2007 August 22, 2007 A buddy of mine at the office asked if i knew what that is that seemed to be trailing from his fish body. he described it as it looked like a white film like substance, almost like a slime or web that seemed to be attaching to his fish body. I'm not sure what that is. Any idea? Is it ich? James
JMsAquarium August 22, 2007 August 22, 2007 A buddy of mine at the office asked if i knew what that is that seemed to be trailing from his fish body. he described it as it looked like a white film like substance, almost like a slime or web that seemed to be attaching to his fish body. I'm not sure what that is. Any idea? Is it ich? James Ich is not a film but white spots about the size of a pin head. Don't know what the film might be. Sorry
traveller7 August 22, 2007 August 22, 2007 A buddy of mine at the office asked if i knew what that is that seemed to be trailing from his fish body. he described it as it looked like a white film like substance, almost like a slime or web that seemed to be attaching to his fish body. I'm not sure what that is. Any idea? Is it ich? James Such a film appears with Brook and some bacterial diseases.
dhoch August 22, 2007 August 22, 2007 Many fish actually give off a film as well as a natural thing to ward of predators... What kind of fish, and is it constantly there or only after stress, or after first waking up in the AM? Dave
jnguyen4007 August 22, 2007 Author August 22, 2007 What kind of fish, and is it constantly there or only after stress, or after first waking up in the AM? Dave The fish that seems to be affected is his clowns. His other fish are fine. As for when it's there, he only recently notices it. James
traveller7 August 22, 2007 August 22, 2007 The fish that seems to be affected is his clowns. His other fish are fine. As for when it's there, he only recently notices it. James Clowns? They are extremely susceptible to brook, even if other fish show no signs. Link to some comparion photos: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.p...681#post7581681 fwiw: some of mine have exhibited trailing strings from the fins, which are not shown in the above pictures.
jnguyen4007 August 22, 2007 Author August 22, 2007 Clowns? They are extremely susceptible to brook, even if other fish show no signs. Link to some comparion photos: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.p...681#post7581681 fwiw: some of mine have exhibited trailing strings from the fins, which are not shown in the above pictures. Thanks. I'll show this to my friend here to see if what is on his clown looks like this. What is brook anyway? I don't recall of hearing it before. Looks like what the folks on the link said that it can be killed by lowering the salinity level. Would that also be detrimental to corals or is it advisable for him to try to catch it and put it into a separate tank? James
traveller7 August 22, 2007 August 22, 2007 Thanks. I'll show this to my friend here to see if what is on his clown looks like this. What is brook anyway? I don't recall of hearing it before. Looks like what the folks on the link said that it can be killed by lowering the salinity level. Would that also be detrimental to corals or is it advisable for him to try to catch it and put it into a separate tank? James Brooklynella, aka Brook, is the bane of clownfish keepers :( http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-j...ooklynella.html Some fish will weather it seemingly building up an immunity(1-20% of fish maybe so don't plan on it), most will check out very quickly(days or less). It is an obligate fish parasite, corals and inverts have nothing to fear from Brook. Lowered salinity will not kill the parasite. Copper does not appear effective without killing the patient. IME formalin is effective, but very tricky.
jnguyen4007 August 23, 2007 Author August 23, 2007 Is the water in the main tank then contaminated? Would it then affect other clowns if he removed the affected clowns and replace with new ones? James
traveller7 August 23, 2007 August 23, 2007 Is the water in the main tank then contaminated? Would it then affect other clowns if he removed the affected clowns and replace with new ones? James Yes. Yes. If you have seen posts, My other fish are fine but, "why can't I keep clowns?" and "my clowns keep dying!"; it is an example of what you describe above. In my opinion, either treat, let the strong survive, leave the tank fishless for 6ish weeks, etc; but assume there are some really nasty little bugs swimming around in that tank.
jnguyen4007 August 23, 2007 Author August 23, 2007 Yes. Yes. If you have seen posts, My other fish are fine but, "why can't I keep clowns?" and "my clowns keep dying!"; it is an example of what you describe above. In my opinion, either treat, let the strong survive, leave the tank fishless for 6ish weeks, etc; but assume there are some really nasty little bugs swimming around in that tank. How would you treat the tank without harming other fish or corals? Would regular water changes help? How about using a UV sterilizer?
DaveS August 25, 2007 August 25, 2007 How would you treat the tank without harming other fish or corals? Would regular water changes help? How about using a UV sterilizer? Yea so that's an interesting question. Sounds like even after you remove any infected clowns and the other fish are fine the water is still infected and any new clowns would/could catch it. So is the only answer to remove all fish for 6+ weeks or something? Any other solutions like UV as suggested?
traveller7 August 25, 2007 August 25, 2007 (edited) So is the only answer to remove all fish for 6+ weeks or something? Yes. 6 weeks tends to be enough. The alternative is to let the strong survive, if any, and avoid adding new fish for quite some time. Thinking 4-6 months if the strong survive path is followed, even though not a recommended strategy. Edited August 25, 2007 by traveller7
jnguyen4007 August 25, 2007 Author August 25, 2007 we looked around on line concerning brook disease and for the most part, they only showed how to treat the infected fish, but they didn't show anything on whether the tank's water was also infected and how to treat it. We also didn't see anything on whether a UV sterilizer would also help kill off the bacteria so I guess the assumption is that it might not. I will pass on your suggestion that he will need to remove all of his fish and put them into a separate tank for at least 6 weeks. Thanks. James
traveller7 August 25, 2007 August 25, 2007 we looked around on line concerning brook disease and for the most part, they only showed how to treat the infected fish, but they didn't show anything on whether the tank's water was also infected and how to treat it. We also didn't see anything on whether a UV sterilizer would also help kill off the bacteria so I guess the assumption is that it might not. I will pass on your suggestion that he will need to remove all of his fish and put them into a separate tank for at least 6 weeks. Thanks. James Think of brook like little bugs feeding only on fish, remove the fish and the bugs will eventually starve. Some fish will build immunity to the bugs over time, hence the reason a tank of 20 fish will have some survive only to have new additions quickly get sick. I believe your suggestion is the best option for a display tank in a area difficult to support AT/Hospital tanks, etc.
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