Jager March 4, 2007 March 4, 2007 yeah, i know not your typical regal angel issue. hes in with my porc puffer who thankfully has shown the regal the ropes of whats food and where/when to be looking for it. the regal is not fat, but healthily wide. it is as far as i can tell a morphing juvenile red sea. (still has the eye spot on the top fin thats fading). paid 30 bucks for it. how long do the other regal heads (cough copps cough :P) believe i have til i get to watch a zoa sm
jamesbuf March 4, 2007 March 4, 2007 wow, so you have your porcupine in with inverts? I added one and he went right to town on my ceriths and nassarius snails. Ended up trading him back in.
Jager March 4, 2007 Author March 4, 2007 yeah i have him in with a clam 2 shrimp (fire and skunk cleaners) cleaner wrasse. corals, snails, sea hare. etc etc seems i always end up with fish that dont follow the "norm" for their species. i actually raise porcs differently then most though i feed cubed foods exclusively and vary the mix of types alot. so the puffers seem to understand cube shape means food. so it tends to leave non opportunistic foods alone (all my porcs have eaten dead fish some have eaten sleeping clowns thinking they were dead....) but this is finally one i get to keep myself rather than raising for someone else . i can go into more detail but yeah thats the gist.
jamesbuf March 4, 2007 March 4, 2007 thanks man. No need to go into great detail. Was just curious what else you had in there. looking good
copps March 4, 2007 March 4, 2007 Hey bud, keep in mind not all regals will devour zoanthids, and I've seen many not touch them. Don't ever get too confident though because if he takes a liking to them they might all be gone before you could do anything... Also, yours looks to be a Pacific regal (although it cannot be 100% confirmed from thos pics), especially for that price... Wholesale prices on Red Sea regals are higher than $30... Good luck... you can't relax with regals until after about 6 months regardless of how well they're doing... keep us updated... John
Jager March 4, 2007 Author March 4, 2007 (edited) yes i dont have any zoas i am worried about losing. I am still trying to pin down when (fish age wise) you can tell what area they are from because its a morphing juvie its hard to tell for sure . i asked the distributors and got the collection site. and where they "said" it was collected from is within the red Sea. this one does have a fairly yellow strip in the center of the chest. but then its greyish white on either side. so the jury is still out. when i get the better camera back ill get cleaner shots of it. as for the price i waited several weeks with them on the list to get photos before i ordered and to get the collection area to try and make sure it was a red sea. IDK why they are so cheap. even for a pacific regal 30 bucks is nothing. Thx for the info copps. Edited March 4, 2007 by Jager
copps March 4, 2007 March 4, 2007 Yeah, after looking at your shots again, I could almost confirm it's a Pacific regal... even juvenile Indian Ocean specimens are yellow throughout... If they're transhipping fish there are a number of locations that sell them for just a few dollars, and the "Red Sea" answer you got sounds like BS... Here's a shot of a juvie Indian Ocean regal... there is no grey to speak of...
Jager March 4, 2007 Author March 4, 2007 well other than the supposed terrible mortality of the pacifics. this guy is fat, eating and a pig at that. so hopefully i wont be another statistic. thanks again for the info. ill try to get cleaner shots for a positive ID im a bit far to drive for eyeballing it. you think youd have better luck with a video of it? not that it really matters if its eating but it would help future care to id it right.
copps March 5, 2007 March 5, 2007 No need for video, but it's up to you... My personal take on the whole Pacific/ Red Sea debate on survivability of these guys is due in most part to collection methods and time of transport... In many parts of the Pacific fish are collected far from where they are exported and not treated as well. The Red Sea has been a model in the industry in terms of collection methods and shipping, which I believe benefits all fish but especially regals. So, therefore, if yours is eating and fat that is a great sign. My advice would be to feed him OFTEN... whatever he'll eat and as many times a day as you could so he could restore his fat reserves lost during transit... Good luck and keep us updated...
Jager March 5, 2007 Author March 5, 2007 No need for video, but it's up to you... My personal take on the whole Pacific/ Red Sea debate on survivability of these guys is due in most part to collection methods and time of transport... In many parts of the Pacific fish are collected far from where they are exported and not treated as well. The Red Sea has been a model in the industry in terms of collection methods and shipping, which I believe benefits all fish but especially regals. So, therefore, if yours is eating and fat that is a great sign. My advice would be to feed him OFTEN... whatever he'll eat and as many times a day as you could so he could restore his fat reserves lost during transit... Good luck and keep us updated... the feeding clip you see in the photo im using as he picks at it. im keeping it full 24/7. and there is daily feednigs for the anthias and every other day for mixed veggies and meat cubes for the puffer. so plenty of food. again thanks for the advice its good to know i am on the same general page as others with sucess as far as what i can do for the fish.
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