SteveM February 9, 2007 February 9, 2007 (edited) I bought a small green sinularia from BRK last Friday. It was doing fine and my water conditions have been good. Last night I went to bed and everything was fine, this morning I got up and ........... it looks like this... Any ideas as to what could have happened? and is there anything I can do at this point? Water: PH 8.4 Salt 1.025 Amonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 10 Cal 420 Alk 11.2 Edited February 9, 2007 by SteveM
stevil February 9, 2007 February 9, 2007 Did you acclimate it? How? What kind of lights do you have? How far away is it from the lights?
Lee Stearns February 9, 2007 February 9, 2007 Not sure what the RTN is from- usually you see rtn from tip down not base up- Sometimes from the source of a sting it can travel outward in both directions. Not sure the culprit in your situation, but if it were mine I would cut one of the branches at the flesh point and glue it to another rock to try and salvage one peice- this can sometimes work.
SteveM February 9, 2007 Author February 9, 2007 Did you acclimate it? How? What kind of lights do you have? How far away is it from the lights? I acclimated it very slowly adding water to it over about an hour time frame, have done the same for everything I have ever put in the tank. I have 2 250W MH with 2 VHO actinics. I have a 110g and this was about half way down in the tank.
lmeyer February 9, 2007 February 9, 2007 Could be alleopathy. You've got three very noxious corals in close proximity, collimorphs, gsp, and sinularia are all known to fight dirty. Are you running carbon?
HowardofNOVA February 9, 2007 February 9, 2007 SteveM If you promise not to stop by with the uniform again, I'll fix you up with a piece of Green Sinularia!
SteveM February 10, 2007 Author February 10, 2007 SteveM If you promise not to stop by with the uniform again, I'll fix you up with a piece of Green Sinularia! HAHAHA... cant promise that but I would appreciate it. Let me try to figure out what happen to this one before I add another one though. Thanks much Howard.
johnnybv February 10, 2007 February 10, 2007 I acclimated it very slowly adding water to it over about an hour time frame, have done the same for everything I have ever put in the tank. I have 2 250W MH with 2 VHO actinics. I have a 110g and this was about half way down in the tank. That looks like something is either stinging it, or eating it.......my vote is chemical warefare. I dont see any RTN flesh, and not bleaching either.... john
SteveM February 10, 2007 Author February 10, 2007 That looks like something is either stinging it, or eating it.......my vote is chemical warefare. I dont see any RTN flesh, and not bleaching either.... john I guess I will have to try another one and put it in a different spot. I'm kinda baffled about what could have done it though. The only thing close to it is the green mushroom to the left of it. The GSP is not nearly as close as it looks in the pic. Could the mushroom be the cause? I fragged 2 pieces off of it to see if I can get them to grow. Wish me luck.
geofloors February 10, 2007 February 10, 2007 That coral to me looks like a green birdsnest (seriatopora). I too have had difficultly keeping them in the past while other sps have grown like mad. I have seen larger shielded limpets do damage like this. It's definitely a weird type of RTN since it's in the middle of the coral and not from the base. George
SteveM February 10, 2007 Author February 10, 2007 That coral to me looks like a green birdsnest (seriatopora). I too have had difficultly keeping them in the past while other sps have grown like mad. I have seen larger shielded limpets do damage like this. It's definitely a weird type of RTN since it's in the middle of the coral and not from the base. George Whats an RTN?
Ingo February 10, 2007 February 10, 2007 I always filter over carbon for a couple of days before hand and a week after adding any coral.
geofloors February 10, 2007 February 10, 2007 Rapid Tissue Necrosis. Basically sloughing of the tissue. George
keeperofthefish February 11, 2007 February 11, 2007 What you have there is an SPS of some sort. You have it right next to very noxious corals that could take it out in no time, depending on the flow in your tank, total volume, if you're running carbon, etc. If you really want to keep SPS in that tank, keep them far from the green star polyps and whatever mushroom that is. Or get rid of those and keep SPS. Most who seriously keep SPS keep no leather corals or mushrooms in their tank.
davelin315 February 13, 2007 February 13, 2007 I think you may have it confused a bit. Sinularia is a soft coral while Seriotopa (sp?) is a sps coral. Yours, actually, looks like a Seriotopa (commonly known as a bird's nest) as was stated above. The polyps look to be similar to those of one and the structure of the coral do, too. I wonder, though, if the cause of the RTN is the epoxy you used. I have had a coral recede from using epoxy putty to mount it before. By the way, when you frag something that has RTN, typically you want to frag it where there is only healthy tissue. Not sure where you fragged yours, but make sure you clip it off where there is still tissue. I also agree on the nasty stuff it's next to. GSP is brutal - I have a Long Tentacle Anemone in a tank at school that has its tentacles all shriveled up where it touches the GSP in the tank.
flowerseller February 17, 2007 February 17, 2007 Is this an SPS or a soft coral? So what ever happened to this piece of coral? Did we ever determine if it was an SPS or a softy (sinularia)?
SteveM February 17, 2007 Author February 17, 2007 (edited) So what ever happened to this piece of coral? Did we ever determine if it was an SPS or a softy (sinularia)? Okay, here's the final word on what this coral was. First, it WAS NOT a Sinularia, or "Leather Finger Coral". Acording to the book MARINE INVERTEBRATES by Ronald L. Shimek (page 163), it was a green Stylophora spp, also known as a "club finger coral". It did not make it. I tried to frag it but I think the pieces were to small and they didn't make it either. I'm still not sure what happened to it. The general consensus was that the mushroom may have gotten it. Although I still don't think it was close enough and it certainly wasn't close enough to the GSP. (The pics was very deceiving as to how far apart they actually were) I have re-arranged the tank a little just to make sure that the next SPS I add isn Edited February 17, 2007 by SteveM
quazi February 17, 2007 February 17, 2007 (edited) It looks like a very shrived Sinularia. For yous guys who forgot what a shrived softie looks like... this is it. Not that I know much about that Edited February 17, 2007 by quazi
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