For a newbie like myself, I just want to send out a thanks to Ryan and all the posters during his build process. So far, I've only stockpiled some equipment and worked through the plumbing (well, Rob was nice enough to work through the plumbing and explain the setup) but Ryan's experience has taught me more than anything I've found in a book or online. I feel awful for Ryan's learning curve but without this thread, I would easily be in Ryan's shoes. I think I've read "nothing good in reefing happens fast" about 10,000 times but reading through this thread really hammers home the point. Let's face it, anyone new to a reef tank is not going to spend time looking at tanks in the cycling process. We all zero in on the established tanks with grown coral and fat tangs swimming around. Getting to that stage takes time and Ryan has helped me see the light. My wife refers to my tank as "the coffin" and my friends all ask "why don't you have any fish?" but based on Ryan's experiences, I plan to stay the course and continue with my "it takes time" rebuttal. Anyway, I know it doesn't make Ryan feel any better but he's been a tremendous help and all the advice he's received along the way has been great too. Hang in there, Ryan. Obviously the desire is there. You'll be fine. Thanks for all of your help.