Charlie97L March 28, 2006 March 28, 2006 ok here's my thoughts on my final stocking list, i wanted to know if you all thought i'd be ok on bioload. right now i have: bangaii cardinal sixline wrasse coral banded shrimp (dont' know if he counts) and about 8 pieces of coral fish i would like to add 2 true perculas 1 coral beauty 1 yellow tang this is in a 36x18x21 58 gallon with a 20 gallon sump, so around 70 gallons total capacity. i know the tang might outgrow the tank eventually, but i'm most likely going to get a bigger tank in a year and a half when i move, if not, and he gets too big, i'll find him another home. i'm sticking with softies in this tank, and from what i've read i know the angel is a risk, but they are less likely to eat softies than sps/lps. is that correct? thoughts? is this bioload too heavy? thanks!
Guest clownfish4 March 28, 2006 March 28, 2006 I would avoid the yellow tang, for both size and bioload. The fish you have, plus the percs and angel, will probably put you at your bioload, if not the tang will definately put you over. By the way, we can't really give a definitive answer on that without knowing what skimmer you have and other filtration. Also, angels are HIT OR MISS with ALL corals. Just make sure you can get him out if you put him in.
dmward99 March 28, 2006 March 28, 2006 I agree with clownfish but if you do decide to get the tang anyways ,watch out for the tang police and I hope you would upgrade in the future.Or you can try a Kole tang.
Charlie97L March 28, 2006 Author March 28, 2006 I would avoid the yellow tang, for both size and bioload. The fish you have, plus the percs and angel, will probably put you at your bioload, if not the tang will definately put you over. By the way, we can't really give a definitive answer on that without knowing what skimmer you have and other filtration. Also, angels are HIT OR MISS with ALL corals. Just make sure you can get him out if you put him in. sorry, i thought it was in my signature... i guess it went away when the forum reloaded. Tunze DOC insump skimmer... might be upgrading, i'm not liking the skimmate i'm getting, it's practically water. it's rated for 125, but i think either i'm not producing much waste, or something isn't right with the skimmer. ~50 lbs of live rock, and 45 lbs of sand, that's been seeded with live sand. i'm adding a phos reactor soon, i hope. my water params have been steady for ~7 weeks now. yeah i figured that the angels are hit/miss... i might stay away from them, i'm not married to any of these choices... i just wanted a little bit bigger, active fish that swam around, and had good coloration... i'd welcome suggestions.
Guest clownfish4 March 28, 2006 March 28, 2006 Hmm...problem is there really aren't many midsized fish. You basically have small and large. Nothing really comes to mind, anyone else have suggestions? As for your skimmer, you definately have nutrients in your tank. If you aren't getting some nice thick skimmate, you need to play around with the outflow. Try and find the right place and don't add any fish until you get it working right.
Caribbean Jake March 28, 2006 March 28, 2006 medium? you are asking for small/medium fish low in bioload? chromis, pseudochromis, antheias, damsels, pygmy angle, mandarin, gobies..... and the list goes on.
Charlie97L March 28, 2006 Author March 28, 2006 medium? you are asking for small/medium fish low in bioload? chromis, pseudochromis, antheias, damsels, pygmy angle, mandarin, gobies..... and the list goes on. well i had green chromis and they bullied everything... the pseudos will eat my shrimp. i guess i'll go for a flame angel or coral beauty and just cross the fingers that he ignores the coral. yeah i'm not planning on adding anything til i get the skimmer working properly.
Ne0eN March 29, 2006 March 29, 2006 well i had green chromis and they bullied everything... the pseudos will eat my shrimp. i guess i'll go for a flame angel or coral beauty and just cross the fingers that he ignores the coral. yeah i'm not planning on adding anything til i get the skimmer working properly. Charlie, You are absolutely correct about the pseudo. I used to have one in my 60 gal tank and he was the primary suspect in the case of a missing peppermint shrimp. However, he was fine with the coral banded shrimp... I guess they can defend themselves better. But I would not trust another pseudo. Same thing goes for any type of damsel. I have the following livestock list in my 60gal: 2 oscelaris clownfish 1 coral beauty 1 hippo tang (ok, tang police, go ahead get me!!!) 1 purple firefish 1 royal gramma 1 mandarin 1 watchman goby 1 corral banded shrimp 1 blue linckia starfish 2 emerald crabs many hermit crabs & snail mix of corals... everyone gets along nicely... -Rob PS. Coral beauty is absolutely a gorgeous medium size fish. He has not bothered any of my corals (soft, LPS, SPS...)
Guest clownfish4 March 29, 2006 March 29, 2006 1 hippo tang (ok, tang police, go ahead get me!!!) -Rob Don't mind if I do...Don't you have a 240g tank or something that you can put him in? I won't flame, but please consider moving him.
Ne0eN March 29, 2006 March 29, 2006 Don't mind if I do...Don't you have a 240g tank or something that you can put him in? I won't flame, but please consider moving him. I hear ya Mike.... But he's barely not even 2" for crying out loud! Yup, I can always dump him in my gf's ocean of a tank... -Rob
Guest clownfish4 March 29, 2006 March 29, 2006 Well, if he's small I let you slide. :P But just remember, they do break 12" in the proper conditions and there is evidence supporting that tank size inhibits growth. Anthony Calfo has a world of information on premature death due to putting fish in tanks that aren't big enough for them. But like you said, he can be moved in a year or two. B)
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