davelin315 December 10, 2005 Share December 10, 2005 Okay, so I purchased the pair of clowns that was actually a pair of clowns that Hammerhead was selling via Howard. They were listed as Clarkii clowns, but I'm not so sure they are. The Clarkii clowns I've had before have looked different than these, but I'm not sure if they're Clarkii or Sebae. These have 2 stripes, which seems to be the main identifiable difference between the two species, versus 3. The pictures of Sebaes I've seen have usually had 2 stripes, while Clarkii pictures usually have 3. Does anyone know if this is something I can truly use to differentiate between the two or is it just a color pattern? I know that some clowns only exhibit stripes when they are juvenile and that they disappear when they get older, such as the tomato and cinammon clowns, whose stripes go from 2 or 3 to 1 across the head when they are mature, but I don't know if this is the case with either of these clowns as they maintain stripes through their whole lives. I'll try and post some pictures when I get a chance, and I'll need to clean the glass before I do so, which could be a problem due to a rather large Sailfin (looks to be a Desjardins Sailfin from the Red Sea) Tang that could spike me if I'm not careful. I've already done some comparisons on Flying Fish and Fish Index, but neither provides a lot of the morphology these fish go through so I can't be certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocko918 December 10, 2005 Share December 10, 2005 Dave, here is a site i like to use when looking at clowns. hope this helps! http://wish.wodonga.tafe.edu.au/%7Ekwaldon/species.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller7 December 10, 2005 Share December 10, 2005 Quite a few of the many clarkii color variants have 2 stripes, but none of the clarkiis have the body shape of A. sebae which profiles A. polymnus. Post a picture when you get a chance. Kylie's web site, linked above, is pretty darn good, but we have come across a few that don't appear to be added. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HVF21221 December 10, 2005 Share December 10, 2005 Clarkii from Vanuatu only have 2 stripes. Post a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 December 10, 2005 Author Share December 10, 2005 OK, I'll post a picture later, but I think I've concluded that they are sebaes based on the 2nd stripe. It continues along the back of the dorsal fin. The body shape appears very similar to saddleback clowns, which I didn't think Clarkii's had, but in looking over the many different pictures, they do appear the same. I haven't found the exact species yet, but I'll take some pictures and post them tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 December 11, 2005 Author Share December 11, 2005 Here are some pictures. I have some more, but it's taking forever to post them. Notice the 2nd stripe that continues along the dorsal fin. That is what makes me say they're Sebaes versus Clarkiis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeltwayBandit December 11, 2005 Share December 11, 2005 Whatever they are they look great! Nice fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerseller December 11, 2005 Share December 11, 2005 Nice looking clam! What's your lighting? I vote Clarkii, given pic #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 December 11, 2005 Author Share December 11, 2005 I only have 2x96W PCs on the tank. I didn't want to put the clam in there, but at $15 it was a steal I couldn't pass up. It's been doing very well, great mantle extension, although it attached itself sideways on the rock despite my best intentions of getting it upright. In the pictures it's pulled in a bit as I scraped the glass before taking pictures, so everything is a bit closed up (it was also later at night, closer to when the lights were going off anyway). I was thinking sebae because of the dorsal fin. I'll look at the website that Bob supplied and compare it again. I didn't see any Clarkiis that had the stripe continue along the top of the fin, while it looked like the Sebaes all had that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HVF21221 December 12, 2005 Share December 12, 2005 Nice fish! True Sebae hard getting harder to find these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert December 13, 2005 Share December 13, 2005 :singer: I vote clarkii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller7 December 14, 2005 Share December 14, 2005 95% chance of A. sebae 5% chance of A. polymnus 0% chance of them being part of the clarkii complex. Torpedo body shape, forehead, eye placement immediately eliminate clarkii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeltwayBandit December 14, 2005 Share December 14, 2005 I'll trade you a mated pair of oscelaris for those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardofNOVA December 14, 2005 Share December 14, 2005 :bigcry: HEY!!!! Enough of this, THEIR NAMES ARE BUD AND MARY! THEY WHERE MY FRIENDS! (for almost 72hrs!) Quit calling them names!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 December 14, 2005 Author Share December 14, 2005 Howard, you've got to get out more often... Oh, and no way I'm trading! I really like these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishface December 14, 2005 Share December 14, 2005 Howard, Well um, Yikes...!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert December 14, 2005 Share December 14, 2005 :bigcry: HEY!!!! Enough of this, THEIR NAMES ARE BUD AND MARY! THEY WHERE MY FRIENDS! (for almost 72hrs!) Quit calling them names!!!! 47465[/snapback] Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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