El Camaron October 23, 2009 October 23, 2009 well i have a general idea of the stand i want to build, its going to be a 31 x 31 x30 high, does anyone have any plans for building one? I looked at a few threads from peoples builds so i have a good idea of how to do it, just wondering what people suggest. thanks for any help in advance.
El Camaron October 23, 2009 Author October 23, 2009 if you can make the lines, how does this look so far? i am also planning to add 2x4 on the top and lay a board over all as well as cut a little square for the over flow.
davelin315 October 24, 2009 October 24, 2009 Glass or acrylic tank? That will have a major impact on how you need to build the stand. Also, how big is the tank itself? 31x31 footprint, but how about height?
Nate October 24, 2009 October 24, 2009 Hey Renato, I have a bunch of experience building stands. If you need any help LMK. I also have all the tools needed.
El Camaron October 24, 2009 Author October 24, 2009 Thanks Nate, i will take you up on that offer if that's cool, could always hit you up with cash or corals.
El Camaron October 28, 2009 Author October 28, 2009 Have a new template and also one fpr the sides, anyone thinks this would work ? and do i need a middle brace for this size tank?
Nate October 28, 2009 October 28, 2009 Kinda hard to figure out what those diagrams mean...No, you don't need a center brace.
El Camaron October 28, 2009 Author October 28, 2009 lol yeah they are, sorry for the crappy iphone pic upload. Cool, makes it easier to know i dont need it. The left part of the second diagram is how i was thinking of putting the brace on the sides, basically there would be a sandwich of a 24"-32"24" that way the front brace rest on one of the 24" pieces and the side brace rest on the other while the 32" serves as a main post. Thanks for your help Nate.
El Camaron October 29, 2009 Author October 29, 2009 Ok stand frame is basically done, i am now starting to think about the plumbing, what kind of piping and glue is used for plumbing reef tanks?
Brian Ward October 29, 2009 October 29, 2009 Ok stand frame is basically done, i am now starting to think about the plumbing, what kind of piping and glue is used for plumbing reef tanks? Some combination of Schedule 40 PVC and flex tubing. Standard food-grade PVC cleaner and glue (you can also use primer if you want, but I find that it's purple and stains everything so I don't use it). Use clamps at all the connection points for your flex tube. Also remember to use valves and unions appropriately to isolate portions of the system, allowing you to disassemble pieces without draining the tank, sump, etc. This is especially important around your pumps.
El Camaron October 29, 2009 Author October 29, 2009 Thanks you do much brian, this helps a lot. its going to be hard plumbed and i will be adding 4 or 5 valves, one for drain, one for return and two others for future use with phos reactor etc that way it all runs with one pump.
El Camaron October 29, 2009 Author October 29, 2009 ok i am having a buddy that is a pro plumber help me with this, is there a part number for the glue? he has never heard of food grade pvc cleaner and glue.
Brian Ward October 29, 2009 October 29, 2009 ok i am having a buddy that is a pro plumber help me with this, is there a part number for the glue? he has never heard of food grade pvc cleaner and glue. Just regular PVC glue - I think there is stuff for DWV (used primarily for sewer connections) and stuff for Schedule 40 (used in pressure applications). Use the stuff that's made for Schedule 40. I use the clear stuff so it's in the can with a black label. Cleaner has a yellow label (basically just acid to break down any impurities that may interfere with the solvent, it helps). Don't forget the unions in addition to the valves - or use the combo valve/true union. You will need to disconnect that pump at some point, regular cleaning is a must. Also, be sure your friend is an excellent pipe fitter - you cannot flex the connections AT ALL when you connect them or you risk breaking the tank (see my post from Sunday night). That's why I recommend using flex tube near the connection point - it provides some relief from perfection when it comes to making the final connections.
El Camaron October 29, 2009 Author October 29, 2009 ohh i see, i was trying to do it like this ( this is a friend of mines)
Brian Ward October 29, 2009 October 29, 2009 ohh i see, i was trying to do it like this ( this is a friend of mines) That looks very good, and if your friend can pipe-fit that precisely, it's definitely the way to go. I'm just not that good at it and I have the broken tank to show for it
El Camaron October 29, 2009 Author October 29, 2009 that really sucks man, yeah my friend is a master of his craft which is why i asked for his help. Thanks again Brian.
El Camaron October 29, 2009 Author October 29, 2009 ok, i know im bugging lol sorry guys i just want to get this done right the first time. 1- can i scoop some pups of sand from my tank to seed the new tank with out causing any harm? 2- do i need to use styrofoam to put between the tank and to level out any inperfections? and if so where can i get some? thanks again
CHUBAKAH October 30, 2009 October 30, 2009 1. Yes 2. No it is not needed for a tank of that size, or any tank for that matter if the stand is built correctly.
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