AlanM December 23, 2016 Share December 23, 2016 I got the new Barrel Tender v2 a couple of days ago. It assembles on the top of the trash can really easily. The template for drilling is cool and the video for assembly is very straight forward. The install is dead easy. I put it together on the lid of my can full of water, plugged it in, and nothing happened. I was going to email Avast to see what I needed to do to get it to work and then I realized that it's not supposed to be doing anything. The barrel is already half full. I have to wait for it to be almost empty if I want to see it work. Doh! Anticlimactic. Now I can't wait to use up all my water to see it do it's thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctenophore December 23, 2016 Share December 23, 2016 Hey Alan, if you didn't bolt it down, or if the reservoir lid lifts up, just lift up the Tender to trick it into thinking the water level is low. I had the same problem when I set mine up Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 Alan, that sounds like a problem you should probably discuss with your doctor or perhaps get a free sample for... I have mine and despite having it I keep on forgetting to bring it to work to set it up. Each day for the past week it's been on my pile to bring to work to set up and each day I leave without it. For me, the excitement is just building! Justin, question for you - I have not yet opened it up but do you know if it would fit on the threading of a 55 gallon drum? Same types we used at MACNA - two plugs that unscrew on the top, don't know the sizes offhand but if memory serves me correctly one is either 3/4 or 1" and the other is about 2.5 - 3". Of course, I could always remember to bring it with me one of these mornings and install it rather than gamble that the cold weather will prevent the RODI from running efficiently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM December 24, 2016 Author Share December 24, 2016 Dave, you might need some extra lengths of the solid tubing they use for the sensors if on the top of a 55 gallon drum depending on the height. I have mine on a 44 gal Brute and it was exactly enough stuff. I don't know about the hole pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilRams December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 I set mine up last night as well. I skipped bolting it down since I don't really see it going anywhere and my hand is too big to get into my barrel. Looks great and hopefully flooding my laundry room is a thing of the past.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM December 24, 2016 Author Share December 24, 2016 Mine just kicked on. I was pumping some water out and the solenoid clicked open loudly and it lit up. Scared me! It's making my water now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds December 24, 2016 Share December 24, 2016 I have an ace 55 gallon Roto mold container. How would this work with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM December 24, 2016 Author Share December 24, 2016 If you can find a spot on the top which is able to get a piece of rigid line down to somewhere close to the bottom I don't see why it wouldn't work. Here are the install instructions. He's putting it on a trash can lid, but you can squint and imagine it's your roto-mold. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctenophore December 25, 2016 Share December 25, 2016 Alan, that sounds like a problem you should probably discuss with your doctor or perhaps get a free sample for... I have mine and despite having it I keep on forgetting to bring it to work to set it up. Each day for the past week it's been on my pile to bring to work to set up and each day I leave without it. For me, the excitement is just building! Justin, question for you - I have not yet opened it up but do you know if it would fit on the threading of a 55 gallon drum? Same types we used at MACNA - two plugs that unscrew on the top, don't know the sizes offhand but if memory serves me correctly one is either 3/4 or 1" and the other is about 2.5 - 3". Of course, I could always remember to bring it with me one of these mornings and install it rather than gamble that the cold weather will prevent the RODI from running efficiently... Here is one of mine installed on a 55 gal drum. I didn't bolt it down, and this is a prototype where the solenoid is separate, so that line goes in the other cap opening. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbarre03 January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 I'm really intrigued by this product but I'm a bit confused on what it actually does. Is this similar to a auto shut off valve? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM January 5, 2017 Author Share January 5, 2017 It's both an auto-shutoff and an auto-turnon valve. It turns on your RO/DI when the water level in the container drops below around an inch and then shuts it off when it gets up to about 3 inches from the top of your container. If you were just running your RO/DI by controlling via auto-shutoff float or something then you'd always be making a fraction of a gallon of water at a time and you'd be blowing through your DI resin because it always takes a while for the RO stage to get the output water down to <10 TDS output. This way you're making large batches of 30-40 gallons at a time which preserves DI resin and also lets you have some peace of mind about overflows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime January 5, 2017 Share January 5, 2017 Could have used one of these two sets of hardwood floors ago, and saved some grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom39 January 25, 2017 Share January 25, 2017 This is definitely a "Gotta Have" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 March 7, 2017 Share March 7, 2017 I am so close to running my barrel tender... I have officially installed it but I need to run power to where the water station is at the Lab and so I can't plug it in. Pathetic how long it takes me to do the stuff I really want to do at work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilRams March 8, 2017 Share March 8, 2017 I finally got around to installing mine a few weeks ago. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM March 12, 2017 Author Share March 12, 2017 Mine just made another 40+ gallons of DI water today. I only noticed because the light was on. I no longer even notice when I'm getting low. I feel like it would only be better if it could monitor output TDS and start shrieking when it saw something that wasn't 0 coming out so I'd know to change the filters. Oh, and then if it could change the filters for me that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 March 17, 2017 Share March 17, 2017 Alan, I bet there are enough DIYers here that could take the sound of you shrieking and put that into an Arduino or Rasberry Pie and create an add-on to do exactly that. I'm going to patent the idea now and call it the Alan-Shriek-o-Meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roni May 23, 2017 Share May 23, 2017 Okay, adding on to this thread... trying to understand this a little...tried pming justin but he's too important to empty his inbox Is it essentially a solenoid that cuts the input to the ro/di or does it use backflow to stop via an asov? Basically, I've had an ro unit that was hard wired into my utility sink with a solenoid valve between the sink and the feed into the ro unit. I had a float valve on the bucket that the ro unit fed and an asov but for whatever reason, if I forgot to turn off I'd still end up with a small flood. I used to plug the solenoid valve into the power to turn on and unplug to turn off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami May 24, 2017 Share May 24, 2017 (edited) Okay, adding on to this thread... trying to understand this a little...tried pming justin but he's too important to empty his inbox Is it essentially a solenoid that cuts the input to the ro/di or does it use backflow to stop via an asov? Basically, I've had an ro unit that was hard wired into my utility sink with a solenoid valve between the sink and the feed into the ro unit. I had a float valve on the bucket that the ro unit fed and an asov but for whatever reason, if I forgot to turn off I'd still end up with a small flood. I used to plug the solenoid valve into the power to turn on and unplug to turn off. It should be a solenoid inside that cuts off the waterflow, as I recall. You can also reach Justin by email. I think he's at justin@avastmarine.com, but even better - use support@avastmarine.com. Edited May 24, 2017 by Origami added support email address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandy7200 May 24, 2017 Share May 24, 2017 Okay, adding on to this thread... trying to understand this a little...tried pming justin but he's too important to empty his inbox Is it essentially a solenoid that cuts the input to the ro/di or does it use backflow to stop via an asov? Basically, I've had an ro unit that was hard wired into my utility sink with a solenoid valve between the sink and the feed into the ro unit. I had a float valve on the bucket that the ro unit fed and an asov but for whatever reason, if I forgot to turn off I'd still end up with a small flood. I used to plug the solenoid valve into the power to turn on and unplug to turn off. First, support@avastmarine.com will get your questions answered SUPER fast The Barrel Tender uses a solenoid to turn the water off which in turn triggers your ASOV to turn off. What the Tender really excels at though is turning it ON exactly when it is needed. There are many ways to turn it off but the ON/OFF cycle when empty to full is a complete solution and saves $ on resin and more importantly time. It is one of those products where I wish people reviewed it 2 years after purchase rather than a couple weeks after, once you use it for a while you pretty much forget about ever making water for top off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandy7200 May 24, 2017 Share May 24, 2017 it could monitor output TDS and start shrieking when it saw something that wasn't 0 coming out so I'd know to change the filter This is a really good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roni May 25, 2017 Share May 25, 2017 It should be a solenoid inside that cuts off the waterflow, as I recall. You can also reach Justin by email. I think he's at justin@avastmarine.com, but even better - use support@avastmarine.com. Thanks Tom. First, support@avastmarine.com will get your questions answered SUPER fast The Barrel Tender uses a solenoid to turn the water off which in turn triggers your ASOV to turn off. What the Tender really excels at though is turning it ON exactly when it is needed. There are many ways to turn it off but the ON/OFF cycle when empty to full is a complete solution and saves $ on resin and more importantly time. It is one of those products where I wish people reviewed it 2 years after purchase rather than a couple weeks after, once you use it for a while you pretty much forget about ever making water for top off. Thanks...Just giving you guys a hard time. Avast is always quick to respond with great products. I think i nearly have your entire line...waiting on that frozen feeder though I know I'm maybe being a little slow on the uptake but so I am sure...basically, it cuts off the output from the ro unit, which triggers the asov to turn off the ro unit? or does it cut off the input into the ro unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami May 25, 2017 Share May 25, 2017 I know I'm maybe being a little slow on the uptake but so I am sure...basically, it cuts off the output from the ro unit, which triggers the asov to turn off the ro unit? or does it cut off the input into the ro unit? It cuts off flow through the solenoid valve. Normally the water flowing through the valve would go right into the barrel. However, with a little modification to how you route your tubing, I suppose that you could cut off the flow of source water going into the RO/DI unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerel May 25, 2017 Share May 25, 2017 Mine just made another 40+ gallons of DI water today. I only noticed because the light was on. I no longer even notice when I'm getting low. I feel like it would only be better if it could monitor output TDS and start shrieking when it saw something that wasn't 0 coming out so I'd know to change the filters. Oh, and then if it could change the filters for me that would be great. I'll let you know how this Hanna Instruments Proton EC meter works for me. http://hannainst.com/pronto-ec-meter-for-demineralized-water-with-lcd-and-alarm-hi983304.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerel May 25, 2017 Share May 25, 2017 I'll let you know how this Hanna Instruments Proton EC meter works for me. http://hannainst.com/pronto-ec-meter-for-demineralized-water-with-lcd-and-alarm-hi983304.html Darn auto-correct.. Pronto EC meter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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