YHSublime April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 What's the rule of thumb when putting a rimless tank on a stand. Foam? No foam? If foam, what kind? Thanks in advance!!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 depends on if the bottom of it is also "frameless" from what I've ever heard. If it has a normal plastic frame like a standard rimmed tank, then you would treat it as a standard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffyGeos April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 I have a glass rimless IM 16g Nano that came with a flat bottom stand that is acrylic.....So I would think they would want even support. Not sure I would use any foam, only a solid surface IMO. Does the company sell stands? probably best to get in touch with the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 10, 2015 Author Share April 10, 2015 depends on if the bottom of it is also "frameless" from what I've ever heard. If it has a normal plastic frame like a standard rimmed tank, then you would treat it as a standard one. So if there is a rim, no foam, no rim, foam? How much foam, what kind? I'm all about foam these days. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 I've readthat if it has a frame underneath you use no foam but if it doesn't have a frame, then some thin rigid foam can help to avoid continuous stress on the glass from barely visible high spots on the stand which would normally be spread out by the bottom frame. However, ensuring that you have a very flat and level hard stand is probably best, as DuffyGeos says above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypertech April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 I've got a dense foam under mine and it has a frame. I've read all the posts about it and don't really see the issue. For it to stress the bottom, it would have to depress the foam far enough that the foam hits the bottom of the tank. Its not even close. I think the foam helps with my DIY stands that aren't perfectly even to support he frame a little better. So, I tend to use a little foam regardless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffyGeos April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 I've got a dense foam under mine and it has a frame. I've read all the posts about it and don't really see the issue. For it to stress the bottom, it would have to depress the foam far enough that the foam hits the bottom of the tank. Its not even close. I think the foam helps with my DIY stands that aren't perfectly even to support he frame a little better. So, I tend to use a little foam regardless.. I would think it depends on the size of the tank, the load, and the type of "foam" If you use those colorful interlocking play tiles I would think they would sink a fair bit with the load of a larger tank, and then the load is on the bottom of the glass which would not be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypertech April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 (edited) The foam I have is an insulation foam from home depot about a half inch thick. I forget if it is blue or pink or whether that even tells you anything about the density of the foam. On my 75, it can't have depressed more than a mm or two. If you take the tank off, there is a slight impression so its doing something but not much. Edited April 10, 2015 by hypertech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 10, 2015 Author Share April 10, 2015 Level is always best, and I intend to make sure that happens, but, I want to make sure I setup right when I do, can't afford any cracking or stressing! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelcruiser April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 I ran my 66 gallon ADA with no foam just a level stand and it had no problems. I agree with everyone else as long as the stand is sturdy and level you should be fine...also the foam depending on what kind can be an eye soar unless you countersink the top of the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilRams April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 My rimless tank came with a thin foam. I don't know the technical name for it but it looks like a really thin yoga mat. Maybe 1/4 in if that. So since that's what it came with that's what I used. The sump that is also rimless came with about an inch of regular styrofoam glued to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khh27 April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 You can get like a 2ft×6ft 5mm yoga mat at walmart for like <10$ it works well. Just cut to size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08can-am April 10, 2015 Share April 10, 2015 I was also going to suggest a yoga mat. My 6ft nano is frameless and aquabox provided me with a mat for it. So id say yes to mat on frameless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 11, 2015 Author Share April 11, 2015 Thanks everyone. Looks like I'll settle on leveled, and a yoga mat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanoli April 11, 2015 Share April 11, 2015 (edited) Chris at PicO recommends yoga mats... Edit: he told me to us kitchen drawer liner. Edited April 11, 2015 by seanoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 11, 2015 Author Share April 11, 2015 Chris at PicO recommends yoga mats... Edit: he told me to us kitchen drawer liner. Cool, I think they are probably one in the same. The yoga mats are probably a little bit thicker, and for some reason, I seem to like that idea more. No rhyme or reason there. Last thing I want is coming home to 100 gallons of water on the floor, so trying to plan everything so I can have it when I start setting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanoli April 11, 2015 Share April 11, 2015 Cool, I think they are probably one in the same. The yoga mats are probably a little bit thicker, and for some reason, I seem to like that idea more. No rhyme or reason there. Last thing I want is coming home to 100 gallons of water on the floor, so trying to plan everything so I can have it when I start setting up. Probably a good idea. My tank is only 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds April 11, 2015 Share April 11, 2015 I'm running my tank without. I have the stand way overly built and it's been up two years and have not seen any negative impacts. The top piece of plywood is 3/4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 11, 2015 Author Share April 11, 2015 I'm running my tank without. I have the stand way overly built and it's been up two years and have not seen any negative impacts. The top piece of plywood is 3/4". Do you think there would be any negative impacts of running foam underneath if you had done it? Thanks for chiming in btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds April 11, 2015 Share April 11, 2015 (edited) I don't think so. On my service tanks I'm running foam but for some reason on mine I didnt. I spoke with other people when I did mine who were running without so that's what I did. For the clients to keep within the warranty they say foam so I did. Just hoping I'm not going to run into any problems with my tank since I didn't do any foam. Cause I'm way past that now Edited April 11, 2015 by epleeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds April 11, 2015 Share April 11, 2015 This is what Coast to coast told me to do for the tank I just got from them. We advise using 3/4" plywood {but it doesn't necessarily need to be marine-grade} and then a sheet of 1/2" Homasote 440 on top of the plywood. Be sure to countersink any screws that are used to ensure they never come into contact with the bottom of the aquarium. You can also use the foam insulation board if you like but it should be the 1/2" thick variety...we just prefer using Homasote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 11, 2015 Author Share April 11, 2015 Huh. I wonder why the Homasote. Thanks for that, it's good information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epleeds April 11, 2015 Share April 11, 2015 I still have to figure out what that is hahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHSublime April 11, 2015 Author Share April 11, 2015 I still have to figure out what that is hahhaha Sound barrier board it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LogR April 12, 2015 Share April 12, 2015 FYI yoga mats do come in two thicknesses. I choose the thinner of the two under my nano. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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