treesprite March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 (edited) I got this Quiet One pump about 7 weeks ago.... It's been freakin noisy as hades since day one. The other day it got even worse. Today suddenly it practically screamed bloody murder at me, so I turned it off and took it apart. I also found out where the mysterious blue plastic thing came from that showed up in my tank a couple days ago.... Is my water F-ed up now due to the impeller metal? Could this be why that hoek frag RTNed a couple weeks ago, and why a couple other frags are on their way out? I guess I'll put some carbon in the tank when I get off the computer. But now I'm back to no pump. Edited March 28, 2013 by treesprite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite March 28, 2013 Author Share March 28, 2013 (edited) I think it is too late to send back to vendor (Pet Solutions). I sent an e-mail with photos to the manufacturer since there is a manufacturer warranty. ... ... just looked at the website - there is a 60 day return policy, so maybe Pet Solutions will take this POS back so I can get some other type of pump! Edited March 28, 2013 by treesprite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 Good luck with the return of the pump. I agree they are junk! I doubt you will have any issues from the metal in your tank but if you are worried just put in a Poly Filter and it will remove any metals for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddR March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 Quiet one pumos are crap. Go on Grudfos pumps website and look at their chemical resistant pumps. Extremely similar to the old little giant pumps. I had one of these last 25 years!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 Get an eheim or water blaster. Also, a lot of people talking about DC pumps, but I don't know anything about those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 Quiet one pumos are crap. Go on Grudfos pumps website and look at their chemical resistant pumps. Extremely similar to the old little giant pumps. I had one of these last 25 years!!!!!! I agree the Grundfos pumps are well made and have a proven history of performance. The original Quite One was actually a Grundfos pump and those were great pumps. It was a sad thing that they switched to this plastic junk version. The new Reeflo Blowhole pumps are Grundfos pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basser9 March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 Any pump can have a quality control issue its always pays to take them apart before you use one to check them out. I had 2 mags and a sedra with bad impellars from the factory that i caught with a little pre-inspection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 basser9, Can you explain what you found so we know what to look for? Any pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddR March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 I agree the Grundfos pumps are well made and have a proven history of performance. The original Quite One was actually a Grundfos pump and those were great pumps. It was a sad thing that they switched to this plastic junk version. The new Reeflo Blowhole pumps are Grundfos pumps. The old little giant pump is a model#CD-42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Rhoads March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 basser9, Can you explain what you found so we know what to look for? Any pictures? I have seen deformed magnets and cracked plastic. If the magnet is swollen at all it will mean trouble sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Hind March 28, 2013 Share March 28, 2013 Wow, I'm really shocked they would send out deformed or cracked rotors. I guess that "checked by" sticker is useless. I'll make sure to look at that next time. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite March 29, 2013 Author Share March 29, 2013 Thanks for the good advice to check pumps before using them! I will definitely do it next time! If I put another powerhead in my tank, I could get away with this puny little pump I have in my refugium as the only return, and maybe add in a second puny little pump of the same type which I have (my sump flows to my fuge in a separate tank). But I don't like powerheads and can't afford the ones that can be totally controlled (Vortec?). Before I go buying any additional equipment, I should consider that I'm taking Gary's un-drilled 90g for which I will have all kinds of plumbing options. Dimensions are the same as 75g but taller. I'll have to post on it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS March 29, 2013 Share March 29, 2013 I do not understand this at all..........why the heck would anyone use this type of impeller in a pump? Seen this in other pumps such as Eden, same thing, always fail. It's not like Ferrite is $3,000,000 an ounce - so what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite March 29, 2013 Author Share March 29, 2013 What Is ferrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Rhoads March 29, 2013 Share March 29, 2013 I think it is what they use for the magnet. I agree that the thin strip of magnet around plastic does seem like too much corner cutting, but it seems like what a lot of companies are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS March 31, 2013 Share March 31, 2013 What Is ferrite Type of magnet used in many pumps - impervious to rust, requires no plastic coating (which fails). There are several types but I believe the type used in pumps is the ceramic composition. No clue why anyone would make a saltwater impeller with a plastic coating & a magnet that will rust. Plastic wears, water gets inside, magnet swells = pump fails. I know rare earth magnets have gone up in price (Tunze switched off them some time ago for mounts)..........but ferrite? Maybe it's a cost savings but it's pretty much a given they'll fail at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite April 9, 2013 Author Share April 9, 2013 They are sending a new impeller should be here by now but isn't). Problem is, I don't know if they will automatically send a new shaft with it. Other problem is, I don.t have a way to get the broken end of the shaft with the rubber tip on it, from down in the well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integral9 April 9, 2013 Share April 9, 2013 What Is ferrite It's the scientific term for Iron (Fe). The word Ferrite is usually used when describing just about any iron (ferrous) magnet. Which is a bit of a misnomer since ferrite magnets are typically an iron alloy. fwiw: Koralia informed me that they use neodymium magnets (at least in their 1400s), which have a plastic casing around them. Once that casing cracks or if it has a bad seal, salt water seems to oxidize it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite April 28, 2013 Author Share April 28, 2013 (edited) Thanks to Fed Ex crappy service, I did not get the replacement impeller until yesterday! Guess what? It's not the right one! So I called the vendor today. According to the manufacturer info, both the Q1 6000 and Q1 4000 use this impeller. But then the vendor guy found something about there being 2 different versions of the Q1 6000 (due to the change in manufacturer/owner). So now I'm waiting for the vendor to get a hold of the manufacturer to find a solution, at which time he's supposed to call me back. If they can't get the impeller they had better send me a whole new pump! On top of this, a couple weeks ago my skimmer pump started leaking voltage, so I had to shut down the skimmer. I'm waiting for a package in the mail for that. I could only detect the voltage (manually...) in the sump, not the tank. Edited April 28, 2013 by treesprite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite May 1, 2013 Author Share May 1, 2013 Pet Solutions got the manufacturer to ship the impeller directly to me. Now the other issue is the impeller shaft. According to customer service, it is still on back order. Then, there is no way to know if it is the correct length to go with the correct impeller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite May 10, 2013 Author Share May 10, 2013 Well, the impeller model version issue has been solved - I got the correct impeller. But the impeller shaft was on back order. Well, it arrived today and guess what? It doesn't fit this impeller, it's for the impeller they sent in error. I'm so frustrated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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