zygote2k February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 I have a client who wishes to put in a Glassholes overflow on his 265. Perfecto was bought by Marineland and no one at Marineland can be certain that Perfecto tanks did or did not use tempered glass on the sides. Does anyone here have any idea or know whom to ask? Another question- if tank is not tempered, then I will be drilling it. Unfortunately I'll have to drill it while it still has water inside and also drilling it horizontally. Is this possible? If so, how do I keep lubricant on the drill bit? Do I just have someone else spray water at the hole while drilling? I've already figured out how to build a drill jig that will allow me to drill a perfectly hole horizontally though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YBeNormal February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 http://www.reefkeeping.ca/forum/showthread.php?3-Aquarium-Tank-Sizes-and-Dimensions And I found several other links all saying the same thing, 265 Perfecto tanks are not tempered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overklok February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 http://www.salt-city.org/showthread.php?9542-How-to-tell-if-glass-is-tempered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 I have a client who wishes to put in a Glassholes overflow on his 265. Perfecto was bought by Marineland and no one at Marineland can be certain that Perfecto tanks did or did not use tempered glass on the sides. Does anyone here have any idea or know whom to ask? Another question- if tank is not tempered, then I will be drilling it. Unfortunately I'll have to drill it while it still has water inside and also drilling it horizontally. Is this possible? If so, how do I keep lubricant on the drill bit? Do I just have someone else spray water at the hole while drilling? I've already figured out how to build a drill jig that will allow me to drill a perfectly hole horizontally though. Rob, check this list: http://mikekirkman.com/forum/smf_1-1-3_install/index.php?PHPSESSID=b2e53ba11f0c7a6c2cf8e83b8028baa3&board=20.0 I'm pretty sure that you're safe. I drilled my tank horizontally. The directions from Glass-Holes said that I could use a spray bottle to keep the site wet while drilling. What I actually did was to get a regular water bottle and drill a few holes in the cap to make it a squeeze bottle. Then, I would give bottle a short squeeze every 20 seconds or so while drilling. I drilled four holes in the side of my 210 this way without any difficulty. In my case, the tank was empty, so I taped the inside of the tank at the drill site with a short length of duct tape so the circular glass blank wouldn't fall onto the tank bottom and possibly break the bottom pane. If you had water in the tank you would be drilling, this shouldn't be an issue as the blank would just fall in the water harmlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 drilling a 265 with water in it and a risk (albeit, it appears small) of tempered? I am glad I am not the one doing the drilling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlem February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 My 265 is a reef ready version of the tank you are talking about. it is drilled on the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvreef February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 if it is empty you can put a computer screen up to it and look thru the glass with polorized glasses to tell if it is tempered... if it is the glass will look like it has lines going thru it... if not it will be clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 To be a little helpful, I have drilled tanks in the manner you are talking about by using putty to build a dam that holds water for cooling lubricant while drilling. The method worked well. Once I was most of the way through, I drained it and used spray cooling for the last mm or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberFrog February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 I drilled mine while it was partially filled. I drained the water several inches below the bottom of the soon to be hole. For lubricating, I drilled three small holes into the cap of a soda bottle and squirted water at the hole as I drilled from the inside out. I laid a big thick beach towel behind the tank to get any water as the bit came through. It was a total non event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesprite February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 (edited) Maybe you could use an Aqualifter, put the out end of the Aqualifter directed at the drill site, and the up take end in a pan of water wide enough to catch what runs down from the site. Edited February 9, 2012 by treesprite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k February 9, 2012 Author Share February 9, 2012 thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oprah Wrangler February 9, 2012 Share February 9, 2012 if it is empty you can put a computer screen up to it and look thru the glass with polorized glasses to tell if it is tempered... if it is the glass will look like it has lines going thru it... if not it will be clear +1...I used this method on my 75 gallon and it worked really well. The tank had a sticker on the bottom panel that said "do not drill, TEMPERED GLASS". I was unsure if it meant just the bottom or if that was the sides too. The computer screen and polorized shades was perfect. I used a glass holes kit and I love it. I t was my first time drilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AQUACO February 14, 2012 Share February 14, 2012 Reston Glass sells a bottled lubricant made for "Hi Risk" drilling. Pretty inexspensive and every little thing you can use that can maximize your success on this job might payoff. BTW.....How old is this aquarium. I have had the unfortune to see a 265 prefecto explode like a shotgun blast when a goof ball that I used to know insisted it was not tempered.... man it was loud. It was however from the early 2000's.. had a build date of 2001 if I can remember. Remember to wear eye protection and a kevlar vest!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowsingle February 15, 2012 Share February 15, 2012 Amen Chad, that said, if anybody could pull it off it will be Rob...... drilling a 265 with water in it and a risk (albeit, it appears small) of tempered? I am glad I am not the one doing the drilling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k February 15, 2012 Author Share February 15, 2012 maybe some of you would like to come watch this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberFrog February 15, 2012 Share February 15, 2012 I'll come help if you want. You're going to be drilling for a while. It must be at least 3/4" thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogurnda February 15, 2012 Share February 15, 2012 maybe some of you would like to come watch this... Youtube video will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 February 15, 2012 Share February 15, 2012 location of event and time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygote2k February 16, 2012 Author Share February 16, 2012 location of event and time? soon- will post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowieReefer84 February 16, 2012 Share February 16, 2012 If schedule fits I will be there for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davelin315 February 16, 2012 Share February 16, 2012 Ha ha, is this a BYOB event? Bring Your Own Bucket in case Rob explodes the tank and we need to save the contents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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