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  1. Nice tank you got there. You can get a cheap black yoga mat at five below and cut it to size if you don't want to drop $20+ for an 'aquarium leveling mat.' I have a lagoon 25 and it works fine under it. It'd probably be fine with the blanket, but why risk it when you technically don't have anything in there to kill yet?
  2. If ocellaris or a percula, it shouldn't be too bad if you find a considerably smaller clown (ideally the smallest juvenile you can find) and use a breeder box. If you don't have a breeder box, you can add the smaller fish and keep an eye on them and separate if the aggression kicks up. Worst experience I've had with the roughly 6 pairs I've had was a maroon/ocellaris hybrid female that nearly beat a black ocellaris to death over the course of a few weeks before finally accepting him. The black clown was ragged for months, but they ended up forming a really strong bond. Regardless, you'll want to have a separate small quarantine tank up and ready in the event that the female is hyper aggressive and a threat to kill the new clown. Rehoming clowns is relatively easy in the area and some of the LFS' will take them back for credit if the pairing is unsuccessful (of course clarify before purchase).
  3. Very nice. What light are you running?
  4. Had a 20g Nuvo at my office a few year's back. Coworkers loved dropping by and checking out the fish, and with the 2 clowns and pistol shrimp/goby pair it was relatively easy to maintain (smart ato for top off, and heavy feedings before the weekend). I'd do a 5 gallon water change every few weeks and only kept hard soft corals and lps. That said, they shut the power off in the (government) building over a long weekend with no warning, and I lost everything, including the clown pair and goby I'd had for 3 years. It was pretty devastating. Even if you're familiar with your office's power situation, I'd be sure to add a backup battery. Otherwise, I'd do it again - the fish were peaceful company.
  5. Yeah man. I was 'this' close to picking up a baby CBB to keep for 6 months or so, just because I enjoyed the process of weaning them onto prepared foods, and finding a new home for a healthy CBB is a cinch. Yours is obviously in good hands. Your tank looks great.
  6. Was the CBB the reason for the emergency LRS post? Had one a few years ago that was my fave fish ever, and loved him some LRS. Only thing I dislike about my lagoon 25 is that it's 1/4 the size of a proper CBB tank.
  7. Def enjoys it. He'd be running or pecking if he didn't. Has to feel good.
  8. Ugh, your tank is amazing. So many colors and personalities. Love it.
  9. I agree with Origami that regulated and environmentally sound collection practices are possible. That said, the industry probably isn't set up to support it on a global scale. Maybe that will change, but the incentive structure for collection still encourages destructive collection methods throughout most of the world. Hawaii is in the unique position of being regulated by the US government, whereas a large number of the other countries that collect and ship ornamental fish are developing. The most problematic regions from which fish are collected are still the largest exporters of ornamental marine fish (Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, etc), and the passage and enforcement of ornamental fish collection regulations is pretty low on their priority list, and wholesalers and marine shops are incentivized to purchase from them. It's difficult to find data on, for example, the percent of fish that are killed in collection and transport, but the WWF estimated the number to be roughly 80% (Scientific American article linked at the bottom of the page), which is insane, and not subjective. That's not counting those fish that die within months due to disease or negligence, or the impact that removing those fish has on the collection areas (that's not counting corals). Until the cost to someone along the supply chain is so egregious that it changes the incentives and behavior of the collectors, wholesalers, aquarium shops, and consumers, the hobby as a whole will continue to exist on a morally gray line. I'm sure others will vehemently disagree. I understand the very specific Hawaii example. It's a great model that will hopefully spread and be sustainable. In the future, it's possible that the ornamental marine hobby will be sustainable and good for the environment, but there's a very long way to go before we can start to argue that it's beneficial on the whole. There are pockets of the hobby that are doing wonderful things, as discussed re. Hawaii/captive-breeding/coral propagation, and hopefully they'll spread, but the relatively low cost of fish/corals for those in this club that care about environmental health is driven by the vast majority that don't. The marine ornamental hobby will exist whether we have those people trying to improve it or not, so I'm glad we have groups like Wamas to at least try to plant the seeds for the future. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tropical-depression-your-saltwater-fish-tank-may-be-killing-the-ocean/
  10. Origami, you're right. 90% was on the high side in the study, and by all accounts it's much better now. On the whole, the hobby of keeping reef fish and corals is probably bad for the ecosystems from which they're collected, at least up to now. It's pretty inarguable. That said, If we reach a point where 95%+ of the fish and corals for sale are captive-bred, the hobby probably would be net neutral or even positive, if propagation and reintroduction efforts continue to grow. I just think it's disingenuous for most to argue that what we as hobbyists are doing is intrinsically good, given the industry we support. Again, I'm as guilty as anyone else, but I'm not trying to justify it as anything other than a hobby I keep because I enjoy keeping the beautiful ecosystems in my home. No different than someone who eats meat just accepting that the majority of meat production is bad for the environment (I eat meat). As far as the club itself, as others have pointed out, it's the exception. Most people in this forum are familiar with everything discussed and seem to make it a point to try and make the ethical choice when possible. As Gmerek also pointed out, it also keeps the propagation in-house for the most part and keeps corals in the ocean by satiating our desire for the awesome corals available, and also provides info for new reefkeepers so that they don't make the same mistakes we all did.
  11. A 2008 NOAA report estimated that 90% of the 11 million tropical fish that enter the U.S. each year are caught using cyanide. Yes, it's illegal, but it's still a major problem. We all also generally accept, either explicitly or implicitly, that a significant percent of fish and corals harvested for the aquarium trade die within the first couple of months of capture, either during capture, transport, or due to disease. We also accept that the industry allows for the death of a large percent of otherwise healthy fish and coral that do make it through the capture process and end up in inadequate setups. I doubt there are many among us who haven't killed many fish due to human error. It's just part of the hobby. We can acknowledge the harm and not pretend that we're helping much of anything (aside from, for example, the guy with the classroom tanks). We do it because it's interesting, and corals and saltwater fish are beautiful. Comparing reefkeeping to hunting is also pretty misleading. Unless you're talking about specific situations where a fish is harming an ecosystem and needs to be controlled (lionfish, etc), it's much more likely that the collection is harming the underlying ecosystem. Hobbyists also aren't contributing nearly the same amount of money for conservation via licensing, and we continue to support some pretty awful practices by continuing to purchase wild-caught fish from parts of the world where we know the harvesters are doing harm. I understand the analogy, but the few reserves are a drop in the bucket. The one saving grace of the reefkeeping hobby are the successful captive-breeding and coral propagation programs. It's nice to know that that vast majority of clownfish sold are captive-bred. Hopefully soon that will be the case with tangs and other highly desirable fish. There's also been some nice progress made in reintroducing corals to reefs that were propagated elsewhere. I guess to answer your question, there isn't a very good answer unless you solely purchase captive-bred fish and corals from vendors you know treat their fish humanely. I have a tangaroa goby and a number of shrimp, so that wouldn't be me.
  12. If you don't have a bunch of sps, a Toby or valentini puffer would be fun. They're not expensive, relatively, and they have a ton of personality. I had a Toby for years that acted like a puppy. If not, there are some really nice, more expensive fairy wrasses that would be nice if you have a decent amount of rock work.
  13. If you want to keep the sand turned and don't mind a bit of an avant garde look, you could always go with a pistol shrimp. They're constantly moving the sand to create their burrows and don't actually rely on turning over the sandbed to eat (though they'll happily eat any food in the sand). I currently have a pair in my nano and have had them in larger tanks and they've always kept the sand clean.
  14. There are a few long discussions in the archives about dinos. Bluntly, they suck, but it's possible to keep them in check. Blackout periods and aggressive manual siphoning are a good start. Others have stopped water changes, started dosing vodka, etc. I nearly shut my tank down at one point because of them and then decided to remove as much as I could see and do a series of 3 day blackouts over the course of a few months. My fish and corals were pissed, but it did the job.
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