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  1. Don't give up. Just don't keep hard corals. Again, an 80 gallon would be an awesome place for a deep-ish biotope tank. Dwarf angels, firefish, maybe a tang (depends how long the tank is). Local live rock. And locally collected sponges, etc (which I think is still legal, but check with the regs). A seagrass seahorse + similar animals tank would also be really cool. You won't have to pay for expensive lighting for the deep water tank; a blue flourescent would be plenty. One of the things I think I've had to learn in my learner's reef tank (in a woefully neglected build thread) is the importance of nutrient management - not just keeping nitrates and phosphates undetectable, but actually feeding the things that need them and not causing the tank to go to heck - which is necessary not only for my SPS, but also eventually for the nonphotosynthetic animals that came with my Florida Keys rock; I hope to keep more in the future. (you could probably legally keep a number of nonphotosynthetic inverts, though of course you should start simple and small). Do call the fish stores, but some of those people can be cagy unless you're actually on the ground. It's better to get to know them once or twice (and recon them). I'd recommend Coral Fish, but not without reservations. Also, get involved with the Waikiki aquarium - historically, they've been at the forefront in public aquarium cooperation with public aquarists, and have lots of SOPs that they can teach, and almost certainly the best group of local aquarium enthusiasts. They have a behind the scenes tour every Thursday IIRC. (In Army infantry terms, this is a counterinsurgency not an air drop - don't go in expecting to seize everything at once. Learn the human terrain, make inroads, and then launch your operations) Anyway, if you want more thoughts on moving, feel free to PM. I've never lived there but I've visited several times, staying in aggregate for several months. In the meantime, check out these youtube videos for some of my Hawaiian biotope tank inspiration (some of which are from Bruce Carlson, former director of the Waikiki aquarium, a leading marine biologist, and an important advocate of our hobby): Bonus, posted this in error, for our freshwater loving friends:
  2. Hah! As you can see, I've thought about it a time or two. Brief addendum to the above: the link I posted is to the latest NOAA report on coral reefs in Hawaii. It shows the multitude of things that are damaging coral cover in Hawaii.
  3. Aha. That makes sense. May be a bit much for my 29g, though...
  4. Why do you guys inject CO2 into your reef tanks? (i.e. talk me into buying a new gadget. :D)
  5. The state is ground zero for the U.S. anti-aquarium movement (using ostensible environmental and somewhat better animal welfare arguments*). Fishkeeping, especially saltwater, is under assault there - even Petco gets picketed by anti-aquarium folks there. Importing (somewhat logically) or collecting (illogically) stony corals is illegal. Collecting live rock is also illegal. I believe possession of black corals (NPS) except as small jewelry pieces is illegal (a few years ago some small boat captain was arrested for having too large of a non-locally harvested black coral ornament on his bridge). Nowadays, there are lots of restrictions on commercial fish collecting, though I don't know if that applies to personal collecting. Zoas are OK. I *believe* NPS wire corals should be OK. There is also a hard to find small NPS gorgonian, sponges and the like that are OK. There's a small, not very colorful Sinularia species that lives in areas with loads of flow and surge that should be OK. I've thought about PCSing there. If it were me, I'd keep a deepish (50m or so) water biotope tank; a lot of the local fishes (firefish, dwarf angels, tangs, etc.) live in that area, in beds of live rock or Porites compressa. You could get fake branching corals to mimic the Porites compressa. I'd also either buy locally aquacultured live rock (see below) or apply for a personal aquaclture permit to keep some dry rock in a crab trap for a few months. I'd also become a member of/volunteer at the Waikiki aquarium (a center for the any pro-aquarium activity in Hawaii), volunteer for reef restoration/pro-aquarium groups, and become scuba certified (if you aren't already. Best diving is out west I'm told. The big tourist dive sites near Waikiki are boring IMO). Shops I've been to include: Coral fish Hawaii, near JBPHH - decent shop; they have legal aquacultured live rock but you should order well in advance. One of the staff that I talked to is a collector and aquarium enthusiast, I'm sure if I PCS'd there he'd hook me up with whatever I could legally own. Pet Depot, out west - not as big, had a decent zoa and feather duster collection when I went Assuming you PCS to JBPHH, I'd live in Kaneohe. Relatively affordable, and decent commute. Good coral growth in the bay and at Lanikai beach for easy kayaking and snorkeling. Another option would be Milliani, though I don't know what the commute is like (it's not far though. Note that if you work near Schofield, I'd probably live in Milliani like everyone else, as crowded and small as the place gets. Or the north shore if you're rich. :D ). I know a dude who lives in Hawaii Kai and commutes to JBPHH; I think he said takes him about an hour each way (coming in at 10), though if there's no traffic it's like 30 min.(Hawaii Kai is my favorite part of Oahu. It allegedly has the best public schools. it also is near Hanauma bay; the actual fore reef is pretty awesome IMO. That place also has a big 500 year old Porites). I would avoid anything west; the traffic getting into even JBPHH is supposedly about as bad as Gainesville to Tyson's. Of course, if you're living a different island, none of the above applies. I'd think you very much have to get in with local divers and collectors. (plentiful on the Big Island, my favorite island by far) * https://www.coris.noaa.gov/monitoring/status_report/docs/Hawaii_status_report_forweb.pdf https://www.coris.noaa.gov/monitoring/status_report/
  6. I take it you don’t keep Giant clams?
  7. Pimped out aquariums, a forum sponsor, does this as well. Pm them. I’ve worked with them before, but have not bought a product from them. Yet.
  8. Agreed, the more I learn about this fish the less and less I think it should be available for sale (obligate Acropora eater?), save by specific request of someone who knows what there getting into. (how to make a reasonable "someone who knows" standard is a harder issue, especially in an open market industry) Moving way off topic..... As far as wild vs. captive livestock, I think we're nearing a major inflection point. Biota is now selling captive bred (presumably maricultured: bred in pens in the inshore lagoons of Palau) yellow tangs for $100. Pacific East Aquaculture, a sponsor, appears to have them in stock. This comes after the Kona fishery in Hawaii is closed (the only place in the world where they breed in large numbers), and Hawaii-origin yellow tangs available for sale now come from other (from what I hear much less productive) parts of Big Island or from (also less productive) other islands. More thinking aloud: Do we think now is a time to work to make captive bred yellow tangs the norm? I would say "not necessarily". As mentioned elsewhere, there is no *catch limit* (vice court injunction functionally banning collection) for yellow tangs in Hawaii, but at the same time population surveys going back to the late 70s state that yellow tang populations on the Kona coast have are in decline. (in fact the surveys are opposite, though the anti-aquarium fanatics naturally dispute the surveys) At the same time, wild collection, with (enforced) sustainable catch limits, can be very environmentally friendly compared to aquaculture in completely artificial cultivation (like ORA does), since taking a limited number of wild juvenile fish has almost no inherent environmental impact compared to the power, seawater, waste disposal, etc. you'd need to breed fish in completely artificial conditions. [this is especially true for species like the Yellow tang which have IIRC a month+ long pelagic state] That being said, buying captive bred livestock always is best, after a certain collection volume is reached, IMO. Are we willing to advocate, for instance, that the Hawaii government adopt a perhaps a 50,000 fish per year catch limit for yellow tangs? (1/4 the current catch rate, IIRC) This would in many ways be giving in to some degree to for the fishes, etc.'s lobbying and litigation campaign. The remainder of demand would be filled by Biota and other breeders, probably (possibly?) at a $90/fish price. I suppose such a thing might be possible if a catch limit were enforced, and the big distributors (e.g. Quality Marine) supported it. (emphasis on *might*, in a frankly un-market economy industrial organization) Would we then be content that price? This would make the yellow tang basically a beginner unfriendly fish. (mind you, I might support that, in that IMO they should not be in average size 60 gallon and smaller standard sized tanks, and I can't fathom why they are so commonly available compared to even kole, naso, or convict tangs - beyond being easy to collect) Anyway, just thoughts. Happy New Year!
  9. Ah, I see your point. Yeah, looking at this this supposedly eats acros only. Honestly, I'd guess these were leftovers from a public aquarium order or something like that. That also might explain the price - a relative fire sale. Just thinking aloud, I could understand your position from a collection standpoint. Something like this should not be collected save for specific orders from someone who knows how to take care of them. Not selling fish that can't be maintained in the average (say 20-50gallon) tank, and special ordering everything else, would be an interesting concept, though I don't know how viable it would be in an industry predominantly, to my understanding, geared around "pushing livestock"*. So once it's in the inventory it'll probably be treated like anything else. :( At least Liveaquaria gives some sort of warning (similar to how they have a 100gal minimum tank size for yellow tangs, or admittedly somewhat inadequate warnings about mandarin diets), whereas I think there are plenty of fish we see in LFS' that should only be in specialized or 75+ gallon tanks. * I wouldn't mind an alternate model. Have captive bred examples of the top 20 or so nano-to-medium sized fish - clowns, cardinals, dottybacks, firefish, etc., and special order more exotic things airfreighted directly from the collector - for admittedly a substantial per-fish fee, which I think would be the killer for such an industry model.
  10. Well, they do give an upfront warning. That is about all you can do.
  11. Lots of good posts and thoughts here. I'll directly answer the OP: If I wanted to entertain those folks arguments, I'd ask them if they could differentiate between an Acropora, Montipora, Pocillopora or Sinulara - without google or a guide book. Have they grown any of those species? When they failed, why did they fail, and what did they try to do better? What could cause that kind of failure on at least a part of an island's coral reefs? What could be done to stop such failure on an island or larger basis?
  12. My WAG: yes. Hawkfish is quite small and would be an easy meal. Also, note that the moray comes from rocky areas of shallow waters (intertidal zones, reef rocks, patch reefs, etc.), while the hawkfish lives on gorgonians and black corals in the deeper portions of your typical reef slope (10-100m darker, more constant flow, etc.). They would not be found together naturally in the wild, I think.
  13. Thanks for posting all of these details. Unfortunately, I was unwell this weekend and unable to go. :( I hope someone else went?
  14. I saw this in the "News" forum, but could not find any further info on this anywhere (when I bring up the calendar it's blank). Does anyone have further info on this?
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